small tree as vertical accent in rose garden???
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Comments (17)Pagoda dogwood (Cornus alternifolia) grows well where I am and is hardier than rgular flowering dogwood (Cornus florida). It has nice winter branch strucure & fall color. It has spring flowers that look a bit like Queen Anne's lace and dark, almost black August berries that the birds love. Kousa dogwoods are in general healthier than regular flowering dogwoods, though they may get a bit bigger than you want. They have similar looking flowers to C. florida and mine have good fall color and seem to be fully hardy here in a windy exposed spot. I know that there are weeping crabapples that can be pruned to stay relatively small, though I don't know any specific variety names. You can get grafted weeping Siberian pea shrub (Caragana arborescens), including one with quite finely cut leaves called 'Walker' or 'Walkerii'. They are very hardy (zone 3, I think) and have yellow pea-like flowers. You may have to trim back stem suckers, though. I'm not sure how big it gets, but the Japanese maple 'Emperor I' is supposed to be hardier than other Japanese maples....See Morethe downsides of large roses in small gardens
Comments (36)Hedging season - when we order small bare-root 'whips' or 1 year old maiden trees and shrubs for hedges - like spring flowering bulbs, we start to think about this in mid-summer ready for ordering in autumn. These little plants sell for as little as 28 pence each - not sure what that is in AU dollars but it truly is ridiculously cheap. We plant these when they have been lifted from the fields as soon as they are dormant (evergreens are usually sold in small containers, having been cell-grown and are usually more expensive....but still laughably cheap) Not all species roses are grown as hedge specimens but check out nurseries which sell hedge plants - the selections are astonishing and the planting is easy, often just requiring a single slender trench made by a spade being wiggled to and fro and inserting the small bare-root 'whip' into the cut. At the very least, expect to find canina, eglanteria, rugosas and pimpinellifolia species roses....See MoreSmall [I mean tiny] Rose garden
Comments (1)Going vertical would be good. Some climbers up the fence would take up less space and you could probably get a few shrub roses in front of those. Prairie Joy is a fabulous rose, but for me in its 3rd year it reached 5'x5' easily, shading out my Charles De mills which I then moved and killed Since it is so bushy, I don't know how it would work as a climber. John Davis is in the same colour family and makes a lovely climber with good repeat bloom. Winnipeg parks is, I believe, more tidy and also a great rose. Morden Blush (maybe too light for your palet?) and Morden Sunrise are also wonderful cold hardy choices. Centenial gets too big....See Moreplanting small trees in a rose garden
Comments (18)Once again, a hearty thanks to all. I'm glad I started this thread. Melissa, your post wasn't a hijack, IMO!!! It is very pertinent to the subject. I got all four magnolias at the new Obi store in Prato last spring. I doubt I would've ordered so many, because of doubts about their ability to tolerate my garden's conditions, but there they were sitting in the store, at excellent prices, too,and I lost all control. Yesterday I put out 2. Last fall, I'd ordered a Susan, which I'd planted out on the side of the main rose area. I had to put up a shade cloth for it, because it got hit by the worst of the afternoon sun in August and looked fried, but is leafing out again. It's with some baby cypress, but now that I have all these other magnolias, I decided to move the cypress and make a litle magnolia grove of three different types: Susan, LeonardM, and the white stellata. I'll have to provide afternoon shade, however there is a young oak that may, in time, do it for me. I also have a possibly loony idea: I planted the rambler Louis Mon Ami,but it got MUCH bigger and uncontrollable than I ever imagined; far too big for any structure that I can build. It ought to be growing into a tree. So, I'm thinking to plant a Paulownia tomentosa next to it. Those supposedly grow really fast...and since ramblers CAN handle growing near trees,hopefully the competition for water won't bother either plant too much. If this works, the combo will provide shade in the PM for the magnolias...I'm thinking of doing the same thing for my wildly over-grown Rene Andre. I don't know what I was thinking to have planted it where it is; it, too, needs a tree. So I'm thinking, instead of moving Rene (it'd be a huge job, and then, if I wanted a new rose there, I'd also have to change the soil) "if the mountain won't go to Mary, let Mary go to the mountain" as it were... what do y'all think, folks? Any chance that this could work????????? The new magnolia Susan I planted in a less harshly lighted spot about 2 meters from another rambler (Mannington Mauve). The problem there is that the soil turned out to be pretty shallow. It's always like this in my garden, it seems: there's always SOMETHING "wrong" with every spot, but since magnolias are shallow -rooted, let's hope it'll be OK.Cori Ann, I love your Fun Magnola Facts. No, I didn't know that! However, I can't really drip water; I don't have running water out at my garden; things have to rely on rainfall. I can imagine myself giving extra water to the magnolias while they are young. Ann, I'll check out those maps.....See Moreingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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