Can I manage a zone 6 or 5b rose in zone 5?
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Comments (11)Okay--another question for ya--have you considered miniatures, since you'd prefer something more mannerly? Many of them have fabulous bloom form that never collapses, especially if you're looking for that perfect, tight spiral. Most minis aren't that fragrant, but there are a few that are fabulous. I'm sitting outside right now, so I'll give you a rundown of some of mine that fit the bill: Voodoo - Tall & narrow grower. Lovely orange-juice colored blooms with yummy fragrance that are phototropic and change in sunlight to a screaming scarlet-orange. Pretty darn good disease resistance. Jean Kennealley, an apricot miniature. She has the bonus of fragrance, and gets pretty big for a mini. Spent blooms will flatten out & fade to nearly white, but I think she's spectacular. She's held a very high rating for a long time. Folklore is a hybrid tea with perfect spirals & yellow reverses to coral petals. Lovely scent, big shrub, good disease resistance. Grows taller than it does wide, at least for me. Gemini is a drop-dead gorgeous hybrid tea. New blooms open ivory with just a hit of a deep coral picotee, then it changes with sunlight to almost a completely coral flush. Mine like to pitch candelabras and I think that's due to the Grandiflora breeding line. Great scent. Flawless is a true, medium pink miniflora with a nice scent. It is very disease resistant for me & blooms like crazy, but it tends to have more decorative or frilly blooms than the classic high spirals. I love it nonetheless. I really want to recommend Secret, but I have to spray her to keep her happy. The scent and the blooms are worth it, though. It does not mind the heat and rain does not spot her blooms as badly as most of my other light-colored roses. How white is your white requirement? I grow Irresistible, another miniature. It has no scent, but oh MY!! The blooms retain their form for at least a week and a half, it grows spectacularly, it's very mannerly, and disease resistant. It is a bit cream-colored upon close inspection but looks white from a distance. Also in my white-ish category is World War II Memorial. It's technically a mauve, but from a few yards back it appears to be white. It has glorious scent, very good disease resistance, and I just cannot describe the way the blooms contrast with an almost forest-green set of foliage. The aroma is incredible. It does spot with rain, unfortunately, but it's one of the few whose spots aren't that unattractive. If we get rain while there are blooms present, it looks like a white rose with pink freckles. One of the hardiest I have is Garden Party, but I'd describe it as an ivory rose that likes to have pink petticoats every now and then. Very good disease resistance and AWESOME fragrance, but mine grows like Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors. I think I witnessed her eating a rabbit this morning. [Or maybe it was that Swamp Tea.] All of these are repeat blooming, and I'd say that Flawless, Folklore, and Irresistible are the quickest to repeat. Gemini is sluggish, but when she blooms, she chucks out about 30 at a time. I live where blackspot pressure is very high due to silly nighttime cooling and condensation. I spray for blackspot, but these are the best of my 60 roses that fit your bill. And since I am too lazy to edit my post [Swamp Tea again...dangit], I totally forgot Tahitian Sunset. I am in love with this rose and put her in a bad spot where I can't admire her while on the deck. It is a skyscraper of a hybrid tea with apricot to pink blooms that have a perfect spiral, and the scent is unusual. It has been described as anise, licorice, myrhh....but everyone at work loves to stick their nose in her when I bring her in. Very, very good disease resistance. These are some of my faves, and if you haven't been over to HMF to check out people's rose pics I would encourage you to do so. There is no better enabler for rose buying than this website and that one, combined....See MoreElie Beauvillain in zone 5b/6a?
Comments (7)Masiel - my teas have grown a bit fewer since last year's bitterly cold winter but I still have 4 or 5. The best have been Mme. Antoine Mari and Maman Cochet, and with the leaf bag protections they'll bloom more or less all season. Mrs. BR Cant is also good and fairly reliable in blooms, as was Georgetown Tea, though neither was a particularly full bloomer at any given time. Duchess de Brabant was never a strong rose, but she was mostly shaded out by some aggressive clematis and might not have gotten a good chance to show herself. That's one of the roses that died off last winter. I have grown Monsieur Tiller and Safrano at various points and had them overwinter at least once, but they weren't robust. Ditto for a couple of other teas that slip my mind. I planted the china Archduke Charles last year on another zone 6 recommendation, and I have Clementina Carbonari and Mme. Berkeley on order for this spring. There are probably some others, but those are the ones that come to mind. FWIW, even if Elie Beauvillain is 15+ in warmer zones, she might not be that big for you in zone 6. It depends - my MAC is HUGE when happy and drapes over everything in sight (easily 15' on a good year), but my teas are no more than 4' tall at best even though they're usually 8' or more in warmer zones. I've posted a picture to give you an idea. Mme. Antoine Mari is to the left of the inner path, Georgetown Tea is to the right of the path (just barely rising above Savoy Hotel), Mrs. BR Cant is barely visible toward the left back and Maman Cochet is at the far left. Cynthia...See MoreHow late in fall can I plant a rose? Zone 5b
Comments (2)My only idea is to sink the pot in my own garden for the winter, mulch heavily, and then plant it in the cemetery in the spring Plant in the cemetery and then mulch heavily. Unless they won't let you. Either way don't keep it stuck in the same pot for months. And never bury potted plants in the ground. Instead plunge them into loose material like mulch or sand, or put them in the ground after being removed from containers....See MoreCroton Petra repotting advice? zone 5b/6a
Comments (2)Hi, Pls. take a breath or 2 & slow down a bit; a lot going on there & lots of questions. Most importantly, pls provide several pix for us to see ourselves, a lot has happened to the plant, I need to see the whole set up pls. Crotons are thirsty tropicals, they need a lot of water & if multi-colored, they need lots of strong sun to maintain such colorfulness (rather than revert to green). 15% Perlite is sadly not enough to do anything. It really should be 50/50 soil to Perlite for best results esp since they're so thirsty, you need to use a lot of water. That was certainly my experience. A pot w/ attached saucer is a BIG problem; sorry, but it does not allow any drainage, which is a real problem. I've never had Crotons larger than 1 ft tall & never multiple stems. You may need help in repotting. If any doubt if cat peed, you should wash EVERYTHING off the roots & change all the soil. Pls do not plant the stems more deeply as that encourages rot. I'd wait a day after the repot to water. You can bang the pot against the table to settle the mix, & dislodge any air pockets w/out having watered. These are strong, resilient plants; pls. know that w/ good care & some time & patience, you can likely bring it back....See Morerehabbingisgreen
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