Jen, keep in mind that even if the rose is getting the required number of sunshine hours, you will have more disease issues with a rose that is shaded all morning. I had another nice conversation with Mike Shoup from the Antique Rose Emporium yesterday about finding a suitable rose for a spot such as yours. He told me their weren't any roses that would do very well with morning shade. He felt they all need sunlight in the morning and actually tolerate the reverse better (a morning sun afternoon shade situation). Most cases the rose does best in sunshine for most of the day, if not all day. Paul Zimmerman from Ashdown has told me the same thing. My personal experience has born this out, but I was hoping Mike would tell me otherwise. In other words, I wanted to hear what I wanted to hear. I was truly hoping some kind of rose would thrive in that situation. This does not mean a rose won't grow in that situation. Many do. It just will never look as nice or be as healthy as one that gets sunshine on it first thing. Sandy

Oooh more possibilities. I got back a sizeable tax refund and am trying to be responsible. My old abused Shih tzu from a puppy mill has to have an eye removed because of untreated glaucoma and that's going to be over a thousand! Her "good eye" cost us $250 the other because her daughter was playing with mom and poked her in it (she arrived here pregnant at 13! :( ) Hubby is still out of work...sigh. Gardening for me is therapy and I've bought quite a few roses this year. My depression pretty much killed a lot of them over the last couple of years...double sigh... I want to put at least one climber at the end of the deck so I can enjoy them close up. I'd love one that is VERY fragrant, gets at least 12' tall as our deck is raised and blooms all summer and is really bushy, color is not a concern as it will be all by its little self. I'm going to do some more research. Thank you so much for all the input. I just love coming here because of the willingness...no...eagerness to help out if asked. Peace, Jane and the Gang

So many helpful & descriptive responses! From what almost everyone says about Crepuscule, it seems to be the perfect rose, fragrant, constant bloomer, almost thornless, disease resistant.. what more can you ask for?! I decided that this one would be my first climbing purchase ever, and I found a website through "Dave's Garden" for a nursery called Niche Gardens, which had it in stock in 1 gallon containers. I am excited to see how it does, however now I have all these other amazing suggestions to consider as my second and third climbing roses. I think I will put in an order at RU for the cl. Lady Hillingdon for next year because I just cannot get over the beauty in all the photos I have seen & I must give that rose a try. Reve D'Or looks very intriguing as well, it seems to have as good of a repeat as Crepuscle, with a softer yellow/apricot coloring that looks almost ivory.. very lovely. Buff Beauty looks lovely as well but I am not sure that I will have room for another rose that gets huge, I am sure Crepuscle will give me a run for my money in the garden space department in a few years. Kingcobb, I know that Don Juan is a red, but since everyone seems to comment that he is so fragrant & such a heavy bloomer I think I may have to add it to my ever increasing "find a place for this rose" list. I think it would add some nice contrast to all this yellow/apricot. I actually already have a rose that I have decided must be Teasing Georgia, I bought it cheap as an unlabeled, abused little thing from the "alley of impending doom" at my local nursery, and I have been nursing it back to health for a few weeks now. I posted photos of it here and a few helpful members have convinced me it is probably a Teasing Georgia. So if I can get it looking good and strong again, there is another climber for me to play around with! I'll link that post at the bottom. Has anyone had any experience growing Pat Austin as a climber? I saw an image of it on this site somewhere and it was jaw-dropping, it finally made her "weak necks" seem like a good thing, because she looks beautiful from below. Thanks again all! Jessica. Here is a link that might be useful: Mystery rose - Pretty sure it is Teasing Georgia

I had this rose in my Sherman Oaks garden approximately 15 miles from the beach near the Sepulveda Pass. The rust was so awful, I removed it in the middle of August, because every part of the plant rusted including the canes, the petals, the guard petals, the foliage, the twigs, and the thorns. Oddly enough, the first few years it did not rust, but once the rust set in, the plant was practically a monument to the disease. Ten years ago in Paris, I think I saw this rose in every possible place, including containers in private gardens and apartment complexes. Beautiful and lovely, but I have vowed not to suffer rust after having both Eden and Playboy. Five miles to the east, my friends in Toluca Lake have both Playboy and Eden, but never get rust or mildew; I think it is because there is a mandatory breeze blowing all pathogens to North Hollywood. JimD