Ah, thanks for the explanation Maria. Since your lovely photos bring us joy, Alegria is also a good shorthand, but it's nice to know what's correct. You're right that English is confusing on forums like this to know if posters are men or women, even for native English speakers. In this thread, "Laurie" and "Lily" you can guess are women from their log-in names, but you'd have to know that for "vaporvac" since that login doesn't indicate. Sometimes English names are confusing, since Kim isn't a common name for a man but Kim (roseseek) is a man, and Chris can be either a man or woman. Many people assumed Chris was a man from her posts about commercially growing Kordes roses, but she clarified that when someone asked her. I figure if we all love roses, it doesn't matter. I usually use someone's log-in name if I'm not sure and don't refer to someone as "he" or "she" unless I know. Cynthia

Wow!!! I can’t believe a climber that big stayed happy and thriving in a 5 gallon pot. That‘s one AMAZING rose. I actually have to do the exact opposite with my White eden Climber. We need to renovate and it MUST be moved. I don’t have a perfect spot for it yet... so I’m trying to figure out how to move it from its spot where its been growing happily for 8 years... into a pot. If you all have any words or wisdom or advice... please send it my way.

Agree with erasmus and Sheila: I post in rose forum since 2011, and read many posts dated back to 2005. The tons of blooms pics. that people post are often from 2nd-year grafted-roses, that's when they are at its peak. Blooming depends on the age of the grafted-roses for particular climate. I visit both rose parks (Chicago Botanical Garden with 5,000 roses) and Cantigny garden with 1,200 roses. I visited Cantigny yearly for over a decade. The first and esp. 2nd year of roses grafted on Dr.Huey: tons of blooms (more blooms than leaves), then it's a drastic decline in 3rd year and the rose park replaces roses every 3 to 5 years. Rose park's 1st and 2nd year Jude the Obscure's spring flush was amazing: zillion of petals, at least 40 blooms per bush. In the 3rd year late fall, I saw only one bloom on their 7 feet tall Jude (no matter how much fertilizer & water is given). Dr.Huey-rootstock declines in freezing wet winter, esp. poor drainage clay. A friend in Southern CA gave up on her old grafted-Teasing Georgia which grows tall with zero blooms, versus Erasmus tons of blooms & many years-old own-root Teasing Georgia. Multiflora-rootstock behaves the same in Pakistan's hot climate. Rosarians there report Multiflora drastic decline then death within 5 years. A. Shopshire Lad is the wimpiest rose among my 134 own-root roses. Own-root ASL is mainly spring flush. Own-root James Galway has the vigor, it's 20 times bigger than ASL. James has thick canes and grew tall fast with 10+ blooms per flush in its first year as own-root. Khalid in hot & dry Pakistan also reported ASL as the worst among his 200+ roses. There's a thread on ASL with many complaints, and the folks who successfully grow it have the ideal soil & climate & plenty of rain for it. I have never seen a 5+ year- old ASL blooming with good repeat, but I have seen many 10-year old own-root roses with tons of blooms like Erasmus and Sheila's gardens. My James Galway now is 6 year own-root and it's giving 3 flushes a year, versus one flush for ASL. James Galway is best as own-root to keep it small & less watering. James' scent is moderate on the bush but becomes wonderful carnation once picked for the vase, plus James' blooms last much longer in the bush & vase than ASL: James' pink clusters with the best scent (becomes stronger old rose & carnation in the vase), beating Dee-lish & many others' scents in this bouquet: James Galway is the pink cluster along with purple Young Lycidas. James is best as own-root to control its height & less demand for water to repeat. I prune James down to 3 feet in spring, and give him no nitrogen, but high phosphorus & high potassium SOLUBLE with trace-elements, plus garden sulfur to lower pH. James repeats 3 flushes a year in my short-summer zone 5. James is compact & tall like a pillar, and NOT messy like other Austin climbers (crown princess mag). James is in 4 hours of morning sun, and I'm sure it blooms better if more sun:

What a beautiful, bountiful, blush pink lovely! Carol