Any ideas for hiding exposed liner on side of pond?
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Comments (3)I also remember you mammabird. I usually don't use the forum much in the winter but come back on in the spring just to catch up on what's new etc. I have a retrofit bd as well mine is some modifications on the Tetra through the liner drain (which froze) but I used the cap from it for my drain. I am replacing that this year with the Aqua Art Drain as it sits flatter than mine. Not sure if I understand your "hump" but you usually put the bd in the deepest part of the pond. Avid koi-keepers like to do TPR's--but that also means cutting a hole in the liner. With your pond dimensions you might want two bottom drains one for each deep section. That would mean two bulk heads (I did pipe boot connections) through the liner on the side of the pond wall nearest your settling chamber. My drain has a 4" line reduced to 3" just before it enters the sc followed by a 3" knife valve (there much cheaper!). I take my drain out for winter because of my climate. Water inside pipes in my climate not a good idea. My settling chamber is a liner chamber (kinda like a pond beside the pond)350 gals-my pond is 2500 gals. They say sc should hold at least 10% of your pond volume. I really like this system as use sc for water changes. I have 3-4 ft square matala mats in my chamber which is also my mechanical filitration. Good luck with your new pond and move. Patti...See MoreHiding liner at edge of pond?
Comments (18)There is in fact a shallow area through the middle! About 12" deep. I was so disgusted when I(we..DH)was digging and found the phone lines going into the house!!!!!! We did not damage them but had to leave the soil under them for support of course!!! There really is no other location that will work in my yard. Really ticked me off...lol. Hopefully it will work well for the plants I intend to get this next week. I will set them on bricks to bring them to the surface if needed. I put the pump in the far end to make sure the circulation kept going throughout the pond. No dead water areas. As far as heron go I am hoping that my dogs and cats will keep them away. I have not had a problem with the cat fishing as of yet. They have so far(crossing my fingers).I do occasionally see them(Herons)flying over my house. I am kind of surrounded by swampy areas and lakes so they have plenty of other resources. I must say I am darn proud of my skippy filter. I love the pot. I found it at Menards. I still need to finish the edging and will do this with smaller river rocks held in place by landscape edging. It will make it easier to mow around then the rough edge of the bigger rocks. Thanks so much again for all of your help and input....See MoreHiding liner edging into soil
Comments (6)So I think I got it backwards then. Everything slopes down to the pond (partly because of lack of space, sloping of the land, etc). Even the coping rocks slope towards the pond, so that the front edge of the rock facing the pond is slightly in the water (to give that 'in the water' look), but the back of the rock is raised so that its out of the water and to help keep the water running into the pond, instead of out of the pond. Only by the patio do I have the water level higher (due to a 1" miscalculation when setting the skimmer). If I slope it the way you said, won't the liner show by the water edge. My rocks aren't that big to make them overhang. I'm afraid that someone (or animal) could tip them into the pond, so instead I've set them back but have that bit of liner looking like its underwater. This is probably a very simple thing, but for some reason, I'm not getting it... Do you have a photo of your liner edge placement? All my books and magazines doen't really show it. Haven't found any really good photos on the internet either. I think I've been out there digging in the rain too long!...See MoreConsidering re-doing my pond = bentonite; dumping liner?
Comments (1)Hi Steve, Let me answer some of your concerns. If you have a tree branch that is large enough to tear the liner in the pond will also tear up the clay. In each case they both will leak. The liner can be repaired usually fairly easily. That is also true of the clay. The liner has a life span of about 50 years. Yes animals can chew a hole in the liner but far less likely than with a clay pond. You won't have a problem with either moles or voles. You can have a problem with chipmunks and mice at the surface of the pond or muskrats below the water level. But the liner will be easier to repair in any case. I have had cattails planted in liner ponds for 20 years and they have never put a hole in the liner. With clay they would not have a problem growing through the clay. For the most part any unnatural creases will disappear once algae starts to grow. Yes there can be some waste with liner ponds and liner can be heavy. I would say that all these things came from the website that was trying to sell you on clay. They told you some of the downsides of a liner pond but not the down sides of a clay bottom pond. Almost all clay ponds leak. It is just a question of how much. Clay ponds are almost never as clear as a liner pond. Any roots can grow though the clay. You talk about ground water lifting the liner. If you have a clay pond that is totally sealed the ground water will lift the clay until it leaks ground water in. Once that happens when the ground water goes down the clay will continue to leak the liner won't. Getting debri out of a clay pond is a pain. This is just a few of the problems with clay ponds. There are more and I won't go into them here. There is a reason why most smaller ponds a liner and not clay. Mike...See Morenbacres
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