Thanks guys, My lites are about 5inches about the plants. I only have some seedlings up so far, the rest are just under the lights germinating. I have bell peppers, jalipinos, hot peppers, tomatos, petunias, pansys, marigolds and cukes. Of course the only thing coming up are the cukes and tomatos which I think I started to early.... but its my first time, so trial and error I will know more next year. I just planted my petunias yesterday so I am a bit late on them, but it took a bit for the seeds to get to me on Ebay. I hope I have some little guys to plant outside this year :) Ok I have tried to post the picture again and I cannot find this browse button it said to click to upload from my computer. So i'll just describe about 150 little seeds and some seedlings, 2 T5 floresent bulbs on top of them, I feel I need more bulbs but I cant fit anymore under my little makeshift shelf. There in the basement, sitting on towels and on top of the towels are styrophone type material to keep the seedlings warmer and off the ground. I have my lites on a timer and was told they need 18hrs a day. So I hope it goes well :)

What a pleasant journey you have taken us on, Jim. It was fun to see what you and your wife saw on this trip to her doc. Interesting seeing your neck of the woods. Then jiggity, jogging back to your home, roses and plants. Loved it!! Thanks! :O) You two take good care, now, and talk to ya later, lol. Debbie

Cleo, That is very nice and you have every right to be proud. Like stated above you can buy the chain and hooks at most lumber or hardware stores. I did for mine. It is nice looking and very functional. I built mine more what I would call industrial but like him used scrap I had from electrical work. I'm one who admires those who use what they have and use their noggin to design it. Very good workmanship. Will be waiting for a picture with it in use. Jay

Lycheelova, I have been looking for your 800w mh and I can't find it. Is it comparable too the halides or is it better. I am just wondering because I have supplemental lighting on my christmas list this year and i would like your light. I found the other light on ebay. Do you know the company that manufactures your light? Right now I am just using flourescent shop lights. My mango flowers are falling off now but I have 3 small fruits. My keylime is all budded up but most of the buds are dropping. I think my keylime needs more humidity. Andrew