Longer list of ranked hardiness for floris in zone 5
nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
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Consistently cane hardy HTs/floris in zone 5
Comments (39)Ratdogheads - my Henri Matisse stays between around 3-4 feet in a mostly sunny spot, but might be a little larger in a full hot sun location. Suffice to say that planting it behind my Champagne Moment was not one of my brighter ideas, and it involves some judicious pruning to make both of them visible. Redwolfdoc - welcome to the fun of rose growing, and always feel free to start a new thread on a topic where it might get more response. I checked the website HelpMeFind, a TERRIFIC website for roses and well worth the optional membership fee, to look up Blue Angel. Both the regular and climbing versions of Blue Angel appear to be on the edge of reported hardiness for our zone, but those are default ratings so not anything to discourage you. If that rose has survived your winters, that's already a good start. Blue Angel cl. is reported to only bloom on old wood, which means that it won't bloom well if it has to regrow from dying back to its roots or graft each year, which is typical of some types of climbers that survive but don't thrive in our zones. Still, 3 seasons is still way too soon to make a judgment about a climber. They tend to spend more time than non-climbing forms in putting down roots and preparing to make their moves, so if it grows some or is at least green and healthy-looking in the active seasons, you might give it some more time. In my world, alfalfa hay or pellets is always a good thing to add to a rose to boost its production a bit in spring. To give you perspective, my Madame Isaac Periere - that is definitely hardy in my zone - was unexciting and unremarkable for 3-4 years while it was putting down roots. Then last spring in its fifth (?) year, it absolutely ate up every rose near it and was stunning in the spring. There's a standard rose wisdom that for roses, first year sleep, second year creep, third year leap. For climbers, you have to give them another year or two of creeping or sleeping before you get leap years. Hope this helps, and welcome to GW! Cynthia...See MoreCold hardiness in zone 8a
Comments (3)Well........ Not sure about quite a few of those, but I think you'll be fine with the following: Saba Mysore Raja Puri And these are pretty reliable here in zone 7 (and even colder): m. lasiocarpa m. sikkimensis These probably would NOT be good choices: Hua Moa Dwarf Red I'm not sure about the others. Ones that I can recall off the top of my head that wouldn't be suitable in zone 8a would be: Jamaican Red musa beccarii AeAe Cavendish musa zebrina (or Rojo, Sumatrana) Too tired to think right now, but that's a start. And to be sure, none of the fruiting types are really completely reliably hardy in zone 8a without some form of protection, usually in the form of mulch. Species bananas, such as musa sikkimensis, and of course musa basjoo, are hardier on average than the fruiting types....See Moreplants for Hummers Zone 4 hardy, new to hummer gardens
Comments (8)I also just moved into a new house and am starting from scratch on my garden. I was also intereted in a hummingbird garden. I think everything I'm naming is hardy to zone 4. This is what I've planted so far: *Catawbiense Rhododdendron 'Bourseault' (closest I could find to the species plant, I got mine at Home Depot) *Aquilegia canadensis Wild Columbine *Campsis radicans Trumpet Creeper *Lonicera sempervirens Coral Honeysuckle *Aesculus pavia Red Buckeye (It is hardy to zone 4 even though the linked website says 6) *Spigelia marilandica Indian Pink *Lobelia cardinalis Cardinal Flower *Monarda didyma Oswega Tea *Monarda didyma 'Jacob Cline' Lilium michiganense Turk's Cap Lily (more known is *L. canadense) Liatris pycnostachya Prairie Blazing Star Silene virginica Fiery Campion Dicentra eximia Wild Bleeding Heart Astilbe 'Larissa' Crocosmia Montbretia 'Fire King' Phlox paniculata 'Tenor' Tricyrtis hirta Toad Lily Among others (I don't want to exhaust you!) The ones with stars are recommended as the top 10 hummingbird plants. The only one I don't have is spotted jewelweed, only because I think it is weedy looking. I see it growing naturally around here. The others are things I liked and read in various websites, catalogs or forums that people found to attract hummingbirds. I try to select species plants because they are thought to have more nectar than hybrids. Although the hybrids I planted, I planted because they are much easier to find! This website along with the link I entered, I found quite helpful. Copy and paste http://www.hummingbirds.net/attract.html I started a journal on daves garden. If you interested in looking at it let me know. Here is a link that might be useful: Top Ten...See MoreJapanese snowbell - anyone with experience growing in zone 5?
Comments (23)I’m a (very) latecomer to this conversation, however however, I stumbled across a lone specimen at a local garden centre 15 or so yrs ago. I had no idea what sort of tree it was or it’s growing requirements, (I was drawn to it on account of it’s heavenly fragrance - literally followed my nose to the thing:). Anyway, in our profound ignorance, we planted it at my mum’s house under a very large/old sugar maple (in Ancaster, Ontario) and the tree continues to thrive in that spot to this day:). I’ve been looking for a specimen for my own garden for years now without success. Does anyone know where I might locate one (Styrax Obassia/Large Leafed Japanese Snowbell specifically) in Ontario? if not, can you pls let me know the best tome to harvest the seeds so i can try to grow one for myself? Many thanks, Lisa O, Ancaster, Ontario, Canada....See Morenippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
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Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA
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5 years agoI had Valentine in a poor soil and part sun spot, and it hung in there for about 6 years dwindling under those conditions. I think it's hardy in zone 5 but I've replaced it in a better spot this year. It's a short compact rose I think under the best of circumstances - I'd say 3-4' in our zones at most. The color is much as you described, and I'd call it crimson rather than dark red or any of the true red colors like the lovely Barcelona would be:
The color is pretty much like in this shot, both for my older Valentine and for the "freebie" blooms on my replacement Valentine this year. It's nothing like the true red of Kardinal Kolorscape, if you're wanting something to blend better with the "hot" colors.Cynthia
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoCynthia: Many thanks for giving your immensely useful info. on floribunda hardiness. I'm on the fence about South Africa and glad to learn from you that it's not hardy.
Does anyone know the hardiness of Valencia for zone 5, I'm looking for the link to the list of hardy hybrid teas that Cynthia posted before. Thank you.
I love Lagerfeld and bought it thanks to Cynthia's list, now a 6th-year-own-root with fantastic scent & lots of blooms in fall flush. I posted a bush-shot of Lagerfeld in HMF & organic rose forum.
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