gimme a gallon of A and D and a bottle of Quink

17 years ago

Young people have a different reality. Must have. They've grown up in a world driven by name brands and advertising. I was having a chuckle this morning just thinking about doing the marketing. I need to hit the office supply store and the grocery.

A few moons ago, I needed some ink for my drawing pen to some calligraphy for some advertising. I use the really old fashioned ink pens one dips into a well, instead of those with cartridges. One less thing to use up and throw away. I ask the young clerk where I might find ink. We walk there and there are pens and cartridges of every description. But, no ink. I ask for just a bottle of ink. Her face went totally blank. She asks me what I'd do with a bottle of ink. I explain that in the age of dinosaurs, pens were dipped into it, or the ink was drawn up in bladders for fountain pens. Uhm no, she says, we don't have bottles of ink! So, goes up front to see if anyone knows about ordering bottles of ink.

I am having a reality check and suddenly feeling older than dirt. Two male clerks also assure me the office supply house does not have, nor will they have bottles of ink. Maybe I need to go to an artist supply store? On my way out the door, I am intercepted by an assistant manager, who asks if I need help. I relay to him that yes, I wanted a bottle of ink, but there isn't any in the world anymore. He takes me to a different isle and there sits one solitary bottle. Of course we have ink! He states. Not according to your salespeople you don't. He then addresses the clump of kids at the register and asks them why they didn't get me the ink. We don't have any, answers the first girl. All we have is Quink. Obviously the name brand.

At the market, I see skimmmed milk, I see 2%, I see real and artificial creamers and I see soy milk......but I don't see any whole milk. I find the dairy helper and ask him to please go to the back and get me a jug of whole milk. He disappears and comes back and says they don't have any. My.......you ran out of milk? I ask incredulously. We have skim, soy, 2% and A and D. That's all. I ask to see it. Uh hum........the label says it's fortified with vitamins A and D. This is whole milk I tell him. No it's not he tells me, it's A and D milk. Ok. Give me some.

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endorphinjunkie
17 years ago
And here I thought Kotex was just a kitten.

Learn sumpin new every day...

8D
calliope
Original Author
17 years ago
OMG, LOL dorph. Good one.

Most people call the refridgerator a Fridge around here. Mama still calls it the ice box, and she is old enough to remember ice men filling them. So, to me it's either a Fridge or ice box.

Everyone I know younger than me calls tin foil aluminum foil. Whew, what a mouth full.

My dd says she is going to hoover the house when she gets out the vacuum.......so it's not only a noun but also a verb.

Hey not only don't I know what some stuff is called anymore, I don't even know what it is. This is off subject, but last week I was in a pinch to make a second desert for company who were coming to dinner and didn't have time to make a second pie, so looked into the pantry and found a box of coffee cake dh won in a food basket from a church bazaar. It looked quick and small so I opened it and I went off on a hissy fit when I was how people cook anymore. Inside was a pouch so you didn't even need a bowl, and a paper tray to cook this thing on. OMG, what is cooking coming to and how could anyone ever say this was home baked? roflmao. I could see using it in an efficiency room or dorm, but I am living in a cave if that is how people cook anymore. It saved maybe two minutes of prep time and two dirty dishes. I had to add my own pineapple and extra topping and put it in a real pan. Said it served eight. That is even funnier. Eight what? The finished product was smaller than a tea saucer.
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meldy_nva
17 years ago
corn flakes, aspirin, raisin bran, scotch tape...

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andie_rathbone
17 years ago
post-it's, xerox (a noun & a verb), dixie cup

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weebus
17 years ago
Velcro...
endorphinjunkie
17 years ago
Disclaimer !size>

Please do not assume I am suggesting that anyone should use a kitten as a Kotex.

That cat would scratch you...

*Ducks and runs*

8D
mwoods
17 years ago
you'd better Dorph.

Suzy,I remember the ice man coming with his big chunk of ice for our ice box,and the coal man dumping the coal down a chute into our basement. That was 1950.
Janis_G
17 years ago
Fridge is the word here.
I've noticed Miss Julia says Mike for microwave.
Shoot half the time my brain isn't in function mode so I
stutter around trying to think of the word I want to use.
Lord luv a duck, I felt bad enough and then
Suzy chimes in that her mom is old enough to remember the ice man.
I remember the ice man.:0(
sheila
17 years ago
Sara, remember how all ballpoint pens were called Biros? They might still be now that I think about it.

Suzy, I haven't thought of Quink in years - we used to have that at home. I still have a fountain pen but haven't used it in so long I bet the bladder is bad. I also have a little tin, it's about an inch and a half x half an inch ~ on the lid it says "Requisites British Made". It's filled with brass pen nibs (or at least brass colored) and if I look through a magnifying glass I can see kind of etched, on each one, "RELIEF Made in England ESTERBROOK" and the number 314.

I've had them for years, I forget where I got them, and I treasure them. I'll send you a nib if you've like one, Suzy. Just let me know.
meldy_nva
17 years ago
We were too far out in the country for delivery by icemen, but I do remember (a really Big Treat) going in to 'town' to get blocks from the ice house; they were packed in straw. Yes, I also remember ice tongs and ice picks; and the icebox, which had a shallow tray to catch the melt and had to be emptied twice a day.

Sheila, I used to use Esterbrook nibs for pen-and-ink drawing. I think they may still be available in the larger artist supply stores. I vaguely recall that the number indicated the width and slant of the nib.

We kids weren't permitted to say "Fridge", as that was either slang (especially if your refridgerator was made by some other company) or "lazy speech", which included transgressions such as dropping the 'g' from verbs (runnin', jumpin' or playin') or saying "yess'm" instead of "yes, ma'am." Obviously, lazy speech was my Yankee parents' reaction to a Southern drawl; but I have no idea why they were so totally anti-slang.
mwoods
17 years ago
You can get fountain pens..like Parker's ( remember those) for $115 at Staples. I remember when we were in Jr. High,Parker's came out with all these great colors and I had a pink one with a wide tip.
biwako_of_abi
17 years ago
So what is the new word for tin foil? Did I miss something? I am eager to know what people call it now.

I was brought up near Boston, and we called the refrigerator "the fridge" or "the ice box." When I was really small, it really WAS an ice box.

Wasn't--or isn't--Quink a special ink first put out for Parker pens? I still have my old Parker from college days, with its satisfyingly broad nib; its insides had to be replaced once. Is Quink the only ink left for fountain pens? (Now I know some people are going to be asking what a fountain pen is!)

I can vaguely remember a funny true story I read somewhere about a man with a wristwatch that had to be wound up and a young kid who thought it was something new and cool, "Wow! A watch that doesn't have to have batteries!" Come to think of it, that is a good point.
agnespuffin
17 years ago
I can remember when it was The Maytag instead of the washer machine. I don't know if it was because it was the most widely available or not. My grandmother had one, wringer type, that was solid aluminum. Legs, lid and everything. It must have weighed a ton. I wonder what it would cost on today's market. I think you could have rolled it out into thin sheets and covered a 747. Wash Day was a big thing in those days.
dirt_yfingernails
17 years ago
Today's search - google
suzanne_il
17 years ago
You can get a fountain type pen at crafts stores. They come with calligraphy nibs and plastic pre-filled ink cartridges. If you use the narrowest nib it's just like an old fountain pen.

Gosh - I don't think they teach penmanship any longer, do they? We had to work tirelessly on our penmanship.

I went into the grocery store once and took out my calligraphy fountain pen to write the check. The young clerk looked as if she was looking at a rare artifact from the 5th century!! Her eyes got really big and she asked, "What is THAT???"

Here's another grocery store tale. I was looking at some asparagus and said to Mr. Suzanne, "I wonder where this is from, it's awfully early to be in season. Maybe they're from South America or something."

Of course, I was pondering about where (geographically) asparagus would be in season. The young clerk who was diligently straightening the bananas said in all seriousness, "No ma'am, that asparagus is not from South America, it comes from the warehouse!" I'm still laughing at that one!

I have to stop and think myself about when things were invented. The microwave? Didn't have one until the mid-80's. Cell phone? Can't remember exactly but my first cell phone was about 8 years ago. I'm pretty slow to technology. I prefer the Fred Flinstone method. I do have a wringer washing maching though. It's a water garden on my deck!
suzanne_il
17 years ago
Oh, I forgot wash day. Actually ironing day was a bigger deal. My mom would sprinkle EVERYTHING down with water. I don't even remember her having a spray bottle, were they invented in the '50's?? Anyway, she'd dip her hand in a bowl of water and sprinkle it over the item of clothing. Then all the clothes would be rolled up and put in the refrigerator! I think that avoided things molding in the heat of the day. She'd pull out one item at a time and iron the heck out them!
calliope
Original Author
17 years ago
I ironed this way for many years, Suzanne. Although spray bottles did exist in the fifties, most women used a sprinkler head. It resembled the sprinkler end on watering cans, had a narrow base fitted with cork and you could convert bottles into sprinklers. My aunt had a novelty beer bottle "Old froth and slosh" with a sprinkler head in it. I guess one may as well make ironing days as fun as they can.

My mother just used a stoneware bowl, and dipped her hands in it and shook her fingers. Yeah, I remember the fridge with a shelf taken up by dampened clothes. But, boy, did they ever look sharp after being ironed. Even when steam irons became mainstream, Mama continued to sprinkle her clothes. I always procrastinated until my dampened load stank and I had to wash them twice. LOL.
shadowgarden
17 years ago
You can order ink from a place called Levengers. I have a receipe for making ink from walnut hulls at home, but I am traveling now and can't remember it. I actually tried it once and it worked only the ink was brown and a little lumpy!
treehouse
17 years ago
Julie got me a new cell phone for my birthday to replace the one I got in'99. The kid in the verizon store had never seen one like it. The look on his face would have taken a prize in a photo contest when he saw it!! All it did was was make phone calls. Heaven forbid.

Jan
Bonbon_N_KS
17 years ago
What a fun thread.. A&D- ointment- to me to, but a GALLON!? Came in tubes (like pepsodent toothpaste) as I remember. Ice box, frig, and tin foil- aluminum foil. I remember mobile phones- had it's own leather bag, coiled cord attached to receiver, cord running from bag to antenna on top of car and weighed 10-20 lbs... razor phone??? ha ha- (I'm OLD!, yikes!)
And some folks refer to MayTags as the "worshin machine", which by the way my mom went from a maytag wringer in the basement to the "automatic" washer and dryer maytag set upstairs in the bathroom in 1970 and is still using them!
My boyfriend just switched from an electric perculator (I called it the Lucy/Desi coffee pot) to a Mr. Coffee, my kids didn't know what a perculator was..
acorn
17 years ago
I called Farmer"s Warehouse(the supplier of livestock feed for the feed store) asking about milk replacers for animals. The young woman stated they had lamb, calve, and fowl replacers. I just visulized all the little chicks drinking from the hen. Fowl? I asked. Spell it. F o a l she spelled. I told her it was pronounced foal and it is a baby horse. What ever she replyed. She is not from India but from the central valley CA
seamommy
17 years ago
Kinda surprised no one mentioned Jello here. That name took over all gelatin dishes.

Kotex is a kitten? Never heard that one.

Frigidaire, heard that one, but in our family we had our own word for it. One of my brothers many years ago couldn't say refrigerator, but he said fridderfrader, and for some unknown reason it caught on and we all call it that. Now sometimes even my and my siblings own children call it that too.

Never heard milk called A and D, and I never heard of Quink either. Yeah, yeah, OK fine. My name is Cheryl and I'm freakin' old. Ya happy?
agnespuffin
17 years ago
When's the last time that the clerk made change without looking at what the cash register said? I'm betting that a lot of them wouldn't know how to go about doing it.
weebus
17 years ago
Kotex is a certain kitten named Kotex, not all kittens are Kotex.

I had to laugh when I went to Jack in the Box, and the computers were down. They had to make change by using their brain. One smart young man proceeded to let the other know he knew how to make change, and he would train the other on how to do it.

I wonder how long he kept it up after I gave him back the extra 45 cents he gave me...
calliope
Original Author
17 years ago
Acorn my hair stood on end at your post. I can just see a worried foal owner frantically looking for milk replacer and she telling them they don't have it. Worse yet is a clerk who would flippantly come back with "Whatever". It's a rude little put-down. I see kids using it with their parents a lot around here. What really amazes me is they seem to get away with it.
endorphinjunkie
17 years ago
I am old enough to remember when the return key on a word processor was activated with the by using the left hand to grab the silver handle and slide the whole carriage to the right.....

Elia
calliope
Original Author
17 years ago
OMG, I am old enough to remember in typing class, we had all manual machines, and ONE electric everyone fought over. I used a manual for years. I remember if one did not have a good consistant stroke, how some letters would be light and some dark. Mistakes? An eraser. Copies? Carbon.

It was difficult for me to make the transition to an electric (not electroni) machine, as you really really really had to punch the keys firmly and one tended to carry over the hard approach to the electrics. I bought a word processor as soon as they came out and they had relatively small memories and I remember renting them first for advertising letters before springing the $$ for one of our own. Then, the puter. Boy, I am a Luddite, but not where puters go. My first was a custom built unit with A large number cruncher. I paid more for it than I did my last machine. I paid 75$ way back when for my first portable calculator and the battery pack was as large a modern mobile phone. LOL.
meldy_nva
17 years ago
Mentioning calculator battery packs reminds me of my first *little* calculator, and it really was small: about 4x3" and 1/2" thick, but had an astounding number of functions. It was solar powered (no battery packs). Made by Texas Instruments, and I bought it before 1963 (don't know just when). I was heart-broken when it finally died in the late 80's and I discovered that a)the battery couldn't be replaced because b)TI hadn't made the solar type calc for years -in fact, the TI repairman had never seen one; and c)at that time no other company made *small* solar-powered calcs. Of course, now solar-powered calcs are so common that I think there are at least 5 in the kitchen junk drawer, ranging from the size of a credit card to a hand-sized one with an integral printer. I remember when computers were room-sized and how thrilled we were with those finally compacted to the size of a bulky suitcase, but I think nothing equals the marvelous ingenuity of a solar-powered, multi-functioned calculator the size of a credit card.
agnespuffin
17 years ago
When electric typewriters came into being, someone calulated that the average person would use less calories that would result in about one pound weight gain per year. Therefore, if you pounded a typewriter all day, you needed to adjust your eating habits, otherwise, after 10 years, you would weigh about 10 pounds more just because you gave up that old clunky manual typewriter.

At least, that's what I am blaming my weight gain on. I think they underestimated it though, it's at least three pounds per year.
acorn
17 years ago
agnespuffin, they will come out with the fitness keyboard, so much resistance you will have to pound the keys, there will also be an ab attachment and you will get a six-pack while typing.
inkognito
17 years ago
Can I encourage you to turn back a page or two and join me in a recent foray into my local grocery store staffed by fellows of 'foalowl girl'. Spring onions are on special at two bundles for 99 cents the lady two down only had one. The girl turned to the owner standing behind her and asked what to charge "half" she said. Can you do it? Can you work it out? I yelled the answer from the back and she punched it in and the lady paid. I have a feeling that I could have shouted any figure and it would have been right unless it ended in a whole number.
agnespuffin
17 years ago
One of my grandkids had a text book in the early grades that would give a simple word problem and the student was supposed to estimate an answer. It would have taken just as long to figure out the correct answer. I simply could not see any justification for guessing at an answer.

I sure hope that the school system dumped that book in a hurry. That sort of fuzzy guessing was bound to confuse the child that might already be having problems understanding the purpose of math.
calliope
Original Author
17 years ago
argh. Not to dredge up an ancient thread, but this one just seemed to fit into this catagory. My DGD was down to visit us. Good dose of young people in the house for a few days. I needed that. But, she walks through our downstairs foyer and looks at the big wooden shelf unit the dh built........crammed full of canned goods from the gardens and wants to know "what those things are". I explained food preservation to her. She is a teenager. rofl. Also didn't know what the pitcher pump was, but that is a little more understandable. Had no desire to try it out, either. I also shared with her how state roads across the nation, in the time before the interstates were dotted with small rest stops and the privy and water pump.
agnespuffin
17 years ago
One of my step-grands, senior in highschool, asked what a rooster was.

I can see how a city kid could miss information like that. They have never seen one. The subject doesn't come up in usual conversation, so how would they learn?
andie_rathbone
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roger_baker
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sluggishlaura
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Love this thread. I remember my mother making lye soap in the early 60's, wathching her fight with a wringer washer, and the milk that came to grandma's house in glass bottles with paper caps. In high school we learned how to use an A B Dick (mimeograph) machine, and of course manual typewriters. My son was intrigued with the monstrous 70's chest stereo I had in the living room, and watched me pull 8 track tape out of it by the wads when something ran amuck. He also found out what the phrase "broken record" means after listening to some
meldy_nva
17 years ago
Honestly, Roger -- I'd toss at least one of the food processors and get a microwave... they are truly that handy! Notice I didn't suggest the mixer or the bread machine... as one who spent 25 years baking bread (and rolls, pies, cakes, etc) from scratch, those gadgets are way up on my personal list of Wonderful Inventions.
endorphinjunkie
16 years ago
This one was on the last page and about to drop off into the ether.

Was this really a year and a half ago?
sheila
16 years ago
Yes, it was.

Next.
biwako_of_abi
16 years ago
Ah, this is a nostalgic thread! I'm from near Boston, MA, and was brought up saying "ice-box" and "fridge." Does anyone remember instant rennet pudding? Is it still around somewhere?
As for ink, after living 35 years in Japan, which is heaven for all sorts of stationery supplies, I got discouraged trying to find ink for my favorite, thick-line-writing Parker fountain pen, which I have had since college. Finally I found a store that had Quink; it was in a huge mall about 12 miles from us. What was so surprising was that the store was selling attache cases and other leather goods, as I recall. What would that have to do with fountain pens?
calliope
Original Author
16 years ago
I remember my stint at a home improvement box store a couple years back. I forget the name for it, but we always had some endcaps set up next to stuff belonging in our department, from a different department. The thought was if the consumer bought this from lawn and garden, then they'd need this from appliances to use it. So we placed the item in both places.

Leather attache' cases? I carry one and people who use the leather ones, instead of the modern synthetic jobs also tend to be classicists and use fountain pens. They saw a niche and grabbed it.
endorphinjunkie
16 years ago
Never could get used to a ball point pen.

{{gwi:172306}}

That's a quick sketch of a design for a solar oven.

Just something to muse over. These things cook similarly to a crock pot.
andie_rathbone
16 years ago
I love fountain pens, but while I've had good ones - both Waterman & Mont Blancs, I've always had problems getting the nibs to work right with my hand. Is this because I'm left-handed? For a while in the 90's you could buy disposable ones - i.e. once the ink was gone you pitched them & used a new one. Wasteful, I know, but very convenient and they wrote great.

This was in my days of traveling a lot for my job & I did learn NEVER to use one on an airplane. It must have been something about the cabin pressure, but the ink would come out in great blobs & make a gigantic mess. Almost 8 years after leaving work, I just used the last of those pens the other week. I wish I could find a supply of them again.
endorphinjunkie
16 years ago
I think most nibs on the newer fountain pens are ambidextrious. I have no problem writing with my off the shelf Watermans.
endorphinjunkie
16 years ago
Those disposable fountain pens are available at Amazon.
andie_rathbone
16 years ago
Those are the ones. Thanks Michael!
florey
16 years ago
We said fridge too. Where does the 'd' in there come from? Some people did say 'Fridgidaire', even when talking about a Crosley, or a Coldspot, maybe from that.
We got the first freezer on the block, in the mid fifties- [2 or 3 years after being last for TV]. Our next door neighbor, came by, it was July, and asked if she could.... put her new 'Playtex Living Girdle' ...[rolled up and wrapped of course]... into the freezer, so she could get it on, after it was well chilled! ...Well, it was for a special occasion!!!... Those things were solid, and had little holes in them, all over, a 1/2 " apart, so that they could stretch. The rubber would stick. They needed talcum too! Playtex still, makes the same sizes. Smaller ones were less, sturdy.
It would have been shameful to go out then, without a girdle.

No A/C ! for decades!
We pulled up the shades, and opened the windows, and turned on the fan, and opened the cellar door so we could get the cool air up.

I'm very thankful, for non leaking pens.
Josh
16 years ago
In the late forties the way we dealt with GA heat and no AC was to open the windows only a few inches and turn on attic fan from sunset to midmorning. The partially opened windows created the strongest draft and the curtains would just billow out. Then windows and blinds were closed and drapes drawn during hottest part of day. It was such a relief to finally get window ac units about 1950.

I remember those Playtex girdles though I never wore one...my friends and I preferred the nylon when we wore stockings but don't think they were much "cooler"...in both senses of that word...LOL In college in the early fifties we wore socks and flat shoes and no girdles. Stockings and girdles and high heels were for dress up. Of course when we went to work after college in the mid-fifties it was girdles and stockings and high heels every day. I can't remember exactly when that changed...maybe when the bra-burning days came along? I was a SAHM by that time but sure welcomed the dose of fresh air and good sense!

Anyone remember the Merry Widow bra worn with cocktail and formal dresses? Strapless but it came down to waist level and was so sexy looking even girls who didn't need a waist cincher had to have one...LOL josh
Josh
16 years ago
Look what I found...

Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:172303}}

gimme a gallon of A and D and a bottle of Quink

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