Ugly yard. Where do I start?
katie8422
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Comments (7)We moved into our newly constructed home 3 years ago. Like yours, ours was a blank slate. Unlike yours, blank meant REALLY blank - no grass, only the subsoil and rocks left behind after the topsoil was scraped off. I had seen the work of a landscaper at a few local garden shows and admired it very much. We contacted him while the house was still being built to come look over the .3 acre bald spot that was our yard. We explained what we wanted (patio, shade, relatively low maintenance, winter interest, etc) and he developed a site plan. With plan in hand, I researched every plant, shrub, tree, groundcover listed. There were some things I had questions about, some things I didn't like from what I had read and many things I just loved and wouldn't have thought of. The plan was not cheap but would be subtracted from the cost of installation. I really love to be out in the garden and wanted to do a lot of the work myself, so we asked that he outline and prepare the beds, install the biggest trees and the several large boulders he had shown on the plan. We also asked that the installation be done in stages over 2 years. A friend and I planted 34 shrubs the first year. It sounds like a big job but the beds were already prepared so all we had to do was lay out the shrubs according to the plan (which FORCED us to space for mature height/spread), dig the holes and keep them well watered. We didn't lose one shrub or tree! We made some changes but kept the overall look (color, form, texture). It's very satisfying to look out a window in winter and see the "bones" of the gardens and to be able to see where next year's additions might be needed. Since I am no longer young and do the yard work with a similarly "aged" friend and plant "mistakes" can be expensive, the plan was a godsend. It gave me a place to start, avoided the "piecemeal" look you mentioned and yet allowed me to experiment. Good luck with your project; I hope you enjoy it as much as I have ours and look forward to enjoying it for years to come....See MoreI need to start over, so how and when do I start?
Comments (33)"BTW - history completely contradicts your belief in soil testing. Almost nobody gets soil tests now and they weren't even available to homeowners until recently. Like a lot of modern technology, it can be a useful tool. However, people got along just fine without them in the not to distant past." What does that even mean? History contradicts your belief in soil testing? How does history contradict a belief in soil testing? That sentence is an example of making up something that sounds intelligent but has no basis in fact. Soil testing is an extremely important part of all the crops growing in this country. If we had a better understanding of soil science earlier in the 20th century then the dust bowl probably wouldn't have happened, or at least it wouldn't have been so bad. Turfgrass, like any crop, has its ideal soil conditions. The closer you can get to the ideal, the healthier the grass. How would you know if you need lime? Let's say you need lime, which one would you use? What about a phosphorus deficiency. Most fertilizers have little P, so are you supposed to guess if you have deficiencies? Andy's plan is the right way to do it. Sure you can do a renovation by omitting steps, but if you want the best results you will do it the right way. Rushing it will usually result in doing it again next fall....See Morefront yard hedge - where do I start?
Comments (6)Not all plants get indefinitely tall :-) They have a genetic predisposition to a "typical" mature size and once they achieve that mature size, growth slows significantly although does not halt completely. Five feet tall is a tricky size for most evergreen hedging type shrubs.....there are a good number of dwarf ones that will stay below that size and a great many more that will easily exceed that. If you really do not mind an annual pruning, you have a lot of choices. The sizes listed are "average" maturity, so a plus or minus 25% depending on growing conditions (more watering through establishment and after will increase size and rate of growth) Abelia 'Edward Goucher' (6') Berberis darwinii (5-6') Choisya ternata (6-8') Cistus ladanifer, corbariensis, x purpureus (4-6') Ceanothus 'Vandenberg' (5') 'Otto Luyken' laurel (4-7') You have a somewhat broader selection if you use or include deciduous shrubs - nothing wrong with a mixed shrub or tapestry hedge :-) Various Japanese barberries, Rosa rugosa, spiraea, aronia, itea, dwarf lilacs, dwarf buddleia..........See Morepemaculturing my yard, where do I start?
Comments (6)Yes you are correct, I was thinking about the whole yard at once, and this is just too much for my little mind to figure out. I have finished the book and the answer is not on the last page! I do think permaculture is more for bigger properties, than suburban lots. I do not have a zone 5, or a zone 3 or 4 for that matter. I guess I have a zone 1 near the house and everything else a zone 2. I figure if I won't want to drag the hose out that far, best to have a plant that can take care of itself. I have the veggie garden next to the house near the back door. I am also concentrating on my rain garden and keeping the trees in wood mulch. They look so much better since I mulched them up last summer. I think it is best for now to keep what I have healthy than to add a lot more plants that I can't keep healthy do to lack of time, water or mulch. I also took jekyll's advice and cut out to scale pieces of paper for future trees and shrubs. I also cut out future sizes of existing trees. This helps a lot in visualizing where trees are actually needed. I don't need as many new trees as I thought. Once the current ones fill out, I am pretty much all set. I do need shrubs though for wildlife perches and to shade off the tree trunks in hot Texas. I am going to in the future, get a few dwarf fruit trees for fun. I have selected apple, persimmon and fig. I may do annual papaya. It is too cold and wet in out falls and springs to bring them though winter. But I am not thinking about that now. I want to shrub up the current trees first and deck out my rain garden. The only thing in there now are some red cannas, and some Texas dandelions that I sowed last fall. The black eyed susan, the texas star hibiscus and the rain lilly seed that I planted last fall, did not come up. I will be receiving some rain lilly bulbs soon on a trade, to put on the not so wet edge of the rain garden. I will be putting basil and borage on the edge too. Come fall I will stick beets, rutabaga, and carrots on the edge of the edge. I have also planted cardinal climber on the hill coming up from the rain garden. They have not come up, so I may have to replant. I read to plant morning glories in winter so the seeds can crack and they will sprout. Maybe the cold weather that we have had lately have told them to not sprout yet. I think 1 or two are up though. I also have some blue eyed grass seed I think might work in there. Maybe I should wait to fall to plant them. I also would love to try some iris in there and then that is about all I have room for. This rain garden is a work in progress. It is mostly a canna garden now. The daffodils did even worse were I moved them too. Maybe texas is not the spot for daffodils....See Morekatie8422
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