How many yards of compost will I need to topdress my lawn?
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Fertilizer vs. Compost top-dressing?
Comments (3)The answer probably depends on your soil and its ability to keep soil microbes alive. If you have pure sand, then adding compost every year might be helpful. I say, might, because I have an area of pure sand and have not used compost since that one time in the 90s. In my neighborhood compost costs $35 per cubic yard. Delivery charges are another $35. App rate is 1 cubic yard per 1,000 square feet. Total cost is $$70 per 1,000 square feet. Whereas I can get soybean meal, a really good organic fertilizer, in a plain bag from the feed store for $15. It covers 2,500 square feet. Total cost is $6 per 1,000 square feet. It provides much more bang than a layer of compost. Why? Because soybean meal has protein in it. Protein is food for the soil microbes. Compost has expended protein (in other words, no protein) but it has a lot of microbes and dormant microbes. What most soil needs is food for the microbes rather than more microbes. I harvested a picture posted here by mrmumbles last June. It shows a picture of a spot in his lawn where he applied alfalfa pellets (rabbit food) in May. Here's the pic. Note the color, density, and height differences between the zoysia in the spot and that surrounding the spot. Alfalfa is considered a good organic fertilizer but not a great one. This year I have been using an excellent organic fertilizer, corn gluten meal, every month. My lawn has never looked this good. Next year I will use about half this much and switch over to soybean meal (much cheaper)....See MoreNew lawn - topdressing with compost vs peat moss
Comments (3)>>topdress with compost or peat moss? Either. Compost holds water a touch better, which can actually be a slight disadvantage as it can encourage rot. But it usually doesn't if you restrict yourself to 1/4" absolute maximum, with 1/8" being quite enough. Compost may have a few drifted weed seeds in it that peat won't usually get, but it's nothing significant if the compost was made correctly and stored properly. Peat moss gets the bad rep of repelling water...and it does, but the water drops through to the soil. No harm, no foul, and the peat moss functions as a perfectly good mulch. In your case, if the compost is expensive and the peat moss is free, use the peat moss. >>Also, I'm following these instructions on WikiHow - are they any good? Do. Not. Till. It destroys the natural water channels, injects oxygen into layers where it shouldn't exist, brings up weed seeds stamped 1897 (but are still perfectly viable), and burns off organic matter at a fantastic rate. If you feel you must open the soil surface, use a slit seeder or rake the soil lightly beforehand. Seeds are very, very good at punching through soil we consider hard. Also, do not lime at seeding time. This is an ancient holdover that keeps getting repeated. Lime works in slowly, setting up a very high pH zone around the new grass roots--which want a slightly lower than neutral pH. Also, only lime if a soil test shows the need for it, and only if you know exactly what kind of lime to use and how much. >>And finally, do you recommend fertilizing with alfalfa pellets before seeding? That's what DCHall suggested in his "How do I level my yard?" guide. Sure, go for it. It'll give your new grass something to nibble on when it's young. If you can't get alfalfa, soybean meal, cottonseed meal, corn meal (or cracked corn but I don't recommend that on a new seed bed as it attracts birds), or Milorganite (I'm not sure if you have that in Poland or what they call it--it's a processed biosolid) are all great. Don't bother with a synthetic fertilizer. It's a flash in the pan and will be long gone before the grass grows enough to use it. That's for later if you want to go the synthetic route....See MoreDid i make a mistake using my yucky sludgy compost as a topdress?
Comments (6)Even my open pile will turn sour if it gets too wet from rain. Darn wind blows off my tarp, sometimes. Compost holds on to water to an amazing degree, and water replaces air, so no oxygen can circulate. In an open pile, as the heat rises, fresh air is sucked into the sides. That's one reason I like to see steam--it means my pile is breathing. You mention the can had holes poked in it. I think a can would needs LOTS of holes not only some in the bottom for drainage, but in the lower part of the sides for air to come in as heat rises. Maybe fifty? And, you could make a couple of big holes on opposite sides to hold a piece of perforated PVC pipe through the bottom. Put holding pins through the ends sticking out, and some kind of way to turn the pipe, and finished compost would collect inside the pipe as you turned it. Kind of like a sifter/grater, for you to push out and use houseplants or the like, while the whole can benefited from air supply. Is it a round can? That you can put a top on? If you got one with handles, you could throw a bungee cord over the top, handle to handle, and tip the can and roll it just like a tumbler, too. If you've got PVC and a handle sticking out one side you might just be able to rock it back and forth. That might be enough. Heavens, I'm weird. This sounds like so much fun, I may do it myself, just to see if it works. I wouldn't have to fool that crazy tarp then!...See MoreCompost Topdressing & SBM Questions
Comments (2)If you have not already go back to the Organic forum and find the FAQs. Near the bottom is the Organic Lawn Care FAQ. It talks about corn meal but SBM is fine. I just get corn meal cheaper and SBM is not available at any price to me. Don't know how much lawn you have but the app rate for compost is 1 cubic yard per 1,000 square feet. Shovel it out and sweep it in. You can also use a leaf blower to get it off the top of the grass. What your builder did is par for the course. It might work fine for you. Do you know what kind of grass it was? The key to fixing the underlying soil is the organic materials. The key to fixing the grass is getting enough of it. If he laid fescue, then you might need to over seed every fall. If he put a mix with Kentucky bluegrass, then you should not have to worry about it becoming dense. Organic lawn care is not that steep of a learning curve. Just stop chemicals and start with meals. The rest is the same. Here are the 123 of lawn care. Water deeply and infrequently. Deeply means at least an hour in every zone, all at once. Infrequently means monthly during the cool months and no more than weekly during the hottest part of summer. If your grass looks dry before the month/week is up, water longer next time. Deep watering grows deep, drought resistant roots. Infrequent watering allows the top layer of soil to dry completely which kills off many shallow rooted weeds. Mulch mow at the highest setting on your mower. Most grasses are the most dense when mowed tall. Bermuda, centipede, and bent grasses are the most dense when mowed at the lowest setting on your mower. Dense grass shades out weeds and uses less water when tall. Dense grass feeds the deep roots you're developing in 1 above. Fertilize regularly. I fertilize 4 times per year using organic fertilizer. Which fertilizer you use is much less important than numbers 1 and 2 above....See More- 15 years ago
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