Squirrels took apples in bags
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Bagging apples - a question
Comments (23)Glenn: You seem particularly concerned about cedar apple rust on your apples, which I can well understand since this disease has also been a serious problem for me. First, the Ferbam. I was able to find it at a chemical company that services the commercial grower trade, and I am quite sure that if you searched the net you could also find it by internet or mailorder. I do not personally believe that ferbam is highly toxic to humans, but whether it is or not, I place myself in no danger and I do not dress up like an astronaut when I apply it. I do have a long, stand-back wand for my backpack sprayer, and spray only when wind conditions are calm. If there is even a slight breeze, I keep myself upwind. I apply ferbam wearing a t-shirt and shorts (and sunglasses), and wait until the spray has fallen on the leaves before moving around to a different angle so that none of the spray material falls on me. It also helps to keep your trees pruned down to a reasonable height so that you seldom find yourself spraying upward. That's one of the reasons I have converted all my central leader trees to a lower vase shape. A series of consistently windy/rainy days can effectively shut my spraying operations down, but that's just the way it is. I don't spray on days like that. Commercial orchardists use highly powered motorized sprayers that fill the entire orchard with spray mist. They have to suit up before doing this, but my spraying techniques are much more careful and targeted, and I don't believe I have to. CAR strikes very early, and if you are going to have it, it will be there before you thin and bag the apples. It is visible on the calyx end of the apple, and the little developing apples are often distorted because of it. If you see a perfect apple, without any sign of the yellow/orange stain, you can bag it with confidence because the CAR spores are effectively cut off from the apple by the bag. I do think that dormant copper sprays are effective at controlling overwintering spores of CAR, scab, and other fungal diseases, but new CAR infections can blow in with the rain from elsewhere in any given spring. Ferbam may not be the only fungicide effective against CAR, but it is the one I found and was able to buy. To be effective, the first Ferbam spray should be applied as soon as apples begin blooming. The fungicide component of Bonide Fruit Tree Spray, which is Captan, is not effective against CAR even if you applied it in pure form and at full strength. My only complaint about Ferbam is its granular composition, which never fully dissolves. As a result, I have to clean out the in-line filter in my sprayer wand with a toothbrush each time I refill it when using this chemical. Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA...See Morebagging apples questions
Comments (32)@MrsG47 - Perhaps he was just doing that other cut as an example? I only cut one area on mine... though I do a V cut instead of just a single cut. @Milehighgirl- You don't have to remove the part above the pleat, but it's just one less thing to get in the way. @ltilton- My asian pears don't really need bagging for insect and disease reasons. But, the bags to help keep the deer off, so often I'll still bag 'em. I find it rare for the bags to come off. More often for me, it's because the tree decided to drop that fruit for whatever reason, and the whole thing comes off. But, for me, I think I only have a couple bags (out of 300 or so) slip off. And, those, I wonder if I really did seal the pleat 100%. -Glenn...See MoreGreen apples safe from 2 legged squirrels?
Comments (5)I think hanging a few Pesticide Re-Entry type warning signs with the name of a chemical an application date, and a harvest date printed on it would go a long way towards keeping people from picking the fruit to eat. The ones with DANGER, POISON printed prominently on them. Might not deter neighborhood brats who just want to pelt passing cars with green apples !!! :-) Should deter most people. And,none of it has to be "real" -- make up some nasty sounding chemical name and put a really long "safe to harvest" date on it -- something like: Chemical Used: DieToxin 25 WP (2-4 Dihydrodioxin fluorcarbobenze tetrachloroaldehyde) Application Date: 08/21/2010 Safe Harvest/Re-entry Date: 10/05/2010 Be sure to use the little plastic signs with the skull and crossbones symbols -- those are the best. Make sure your safe harvest date is well after the real date you want to harvest. Of course, if some neighbor complains, you might just have to let them in on the fact that it's all a psy-ops operation, but you can always bribe them with fruit....See MoreBagged apple oddities
Comments (6)Hi Michael- I love the Ziploc pic! Perhaps we could use this technique to start branding our own apples! :-) I've always used the cheapest Walmart baggies because that's what Jellyman recommended... Perhaps this is one reason why! If the birds damaged all your unbagged apples, and only took one bagged apple [per our email], it sounds to me like the bagging was still a success. Despite this damage, this is the first time I've seen an example of where the bagging really did help thwart the birds. Good info. Thanks for sharing these pics! ÂGlenn...See Morefranktank232
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