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cucumber and other vine problems insect/disease?

14 years ago

I posted this over in the gallery, but then noticed that there isn't a lot of activity over there, so I thought I would put it here and maybe someone would be willing to pop over and see the pic and hopefully be able to help me. I am running out of time, having had to cut a lot of the cucumber off yesterday to try to stop it from spreading.

We put in raised beds this year, ph good in dirt, fertility tested good. I grew plants from seeds. Cucumbers have whatever this is,the worst, then the squash, the watermelons and the pumpkins. I have been to neighboring gardens and to the local worm's way. I have also tried lookoing at other people's problem pics.

First I tried cutting off all infected leaves and spraying with Garden Safe fungicide 3. It was back in 2 days. It is on the leaves, stems and fruit.It will not rub off the leaves like a fungus, but you can scrape it off the stem and it seems like it is thick and yellow.

The leaves are being shredded by something, it looks like caterpillar damage but I am out there a lot and not one caterpillar. I have treated for slugs repeatedly.

We have had a huge amount of rain almost every day for about 2 1/2 weeks. We used pine needles for mulch. the pumpkins and watermelon has some compost around them since planting. Everything was fertilized once with fish and seaweed.

When I showeed it to the worm's way guy, he said it looked like leaf damage from something and he said aphids because there were a couple by chance on that leaf. there are a few aphids in the garden but not on most of the affected leaves. Tonight I sprayed an organic insecticide, but there aren't hardly any insects.

I am really stumped, and am getting very worried that there isn't going to be any harvest from this garden. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Karen Pease
14 years ago
"Pop over" where? Please post a link if you want us to go somewhere else. Hopefully there are pics.
lathyrus_odoratus
14 years ago
There are so many places to look here that I haven't a clue where the other post is. I looked into a few galleries that I thought likely, but didn't find the post. Could you post a link to it?

I found it by a search on your user name, but a link might help other people who aren't sure where it is and won't search on your name as I did.

OK, it sounds to me like you are talking about two separate things: leaf damage and something that is on the leaves, stems and fruit. Unfortunately, the only thing you've shown us is a small picture of a few leaves.

You mentioned heavy rains - they can cause major leaf damage. It may not be a critter at all.

If you can, please take some more pictures. We need to see the stuff that is worrying you on the stems, leaves, and fruit. We also would benefit from seeing a shot of a whole plant so we can get a picture of how much damage there is and the type of damage. The more we can see, the better we can help.
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cranialgirl
Original Author
14 years ago
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/cornucop/gal062153163329.html?1

I am really sorry about the vagueness of where the other post is. I just assumed it would be understood it was in this forum's gallery section, but it is easy to know that if you already know that. :-)

I posted a small clickable thumbnail when I read it is best to load small pics as they are easier to load, and then can be clicked on to be seen bigger. I thought the big ones were much nicer too, and maybe not everyone can click it and make it bigger. Sorry again.

I am puzzled also by the shredding of the leaves after the white/silvery stuff appears, but in looking up possible causes which I have been doing every night, I found that angular water spot will shred the leaves just like it is an isect eating it. I don't think it looks exactly like it, but it is the closest thing I have found yet.

I just went out to the garden in hopes of some pics this morning but I knew the dew would probably be too heavy and it was. it really washes out the white color making it hard to see. I have an appt before lunch, but will be getting pics the first minute I can when I get back. Thanks so much for taking the time to try to help me figure this out. If the cucs are lost, at least if I identify it soon, I can do prevention on the other vines before they get too bad to save. Julie

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