Marvin Windows Cracks/Flaking Warranty no Help
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Comments (16)Inline is a Canadian company (if that matters to you) who uses a full heavy fiberglass frame that is insulated. (fiberglass inside and out). I believe they veneer the interior if you want a real wood look. Inline offers a much larger selection of glass packages if you are wanting to tune the windows for maximum energy efficiency. They have better u values and better infiltration numbers. All and all, they will be a more efficient window, but will most likely cost somewhere between the Marvin Premiums and Integrity, depending on your glass packages. They have triple pane options that only add around $50-90/ window. Inline is one I would definately consider, as well as Fibertec (both Canadian). Thermotech is also great, but will be priced like the Marvins....See MoreMarvin Integrity Window Review
Comments (238)Why I will not buy Marvin Window Products and neither should you. In 2004 we renovated our kitchen, replacing three windows and one door with Marvin Windows. At the time we purchased Marvin because I felt they were high quality. Marvin’s website says, “We are committed to design that is as functional and intuitive as it is beautiful. Crafted with exceptional skill, our products deliver quality you can see, touch, and feel, the beauty that brings joy, and performance that stands the test of time.“ My view of the ‘test of time’ for windows that I put in my home is a long time, decades. Apparently, Marvin’s test is dramatically shorter. Less than 20 years after installation I noticed that the window had rotted all the way through the frame. I am not sure how many years it took to decay, but clearly it did not happen overnight. Their test of time failed quickly. I called Marvin and was told that the warranty is only 10 years. I understand how warranties work and asked for Marvin’s help repairing the window. They said they would not offer any help since they no longer make the model. I called dozens of companies and was told these Marvin windows were not repairable. I am left with one window out of six that failed out of warranty but clearly started failing years ago before the warranty had expired. I now need to replace all of my kitchen windows in order to have a consistent look. I thought that maybe this is a one-time issue and not very widespread. It turns out Marvin lost a class action lawsuit on this very issue. https://www.yourlawyer.com/construction-defects/marvin-windows-lawsuit/. Apparently, their product team feels they can continue to turn out products that do not stand the test of time. Marvin’s marketing department may tell you they are committed to a lot of things but it is clearly a lot of marketing and they do not stand behind the actual quality of their windows. So when you look to purchase windows for your home my strong recommendation is to look at anyone other than Mavin....See MoreFlaking/cracking new paint on interior walls
Comments (2)The walls were contaminated, and the primer was not a sufficient blocker to that contamination. This is why every good paint job starts with washing the walls as the first step. It may not prevent crackle or bleedthrough on some contamination, but it reduces the chance of issues. You need to get a palm sander, seal off the room with plastic, Exhaust the air out a window, supply a filtered hole in your plastic with some cheap hvac filters, wear a respirator, and go to town sanding all of thr pant off of the walls. You need butter smooth. Then you need to paint with a stinky alcohol based shellac primer, like BIN. That will seal anything in that survived the sanding. Do 2 primer coats, and lightly sand with a high grit, to achieved ultimate smoothness. BIN powders up well, and will create a smooth as glass surface, if you have your sanding and painting skills on point. After your first finish coat, use an angled glancing light to look for issues of crackle or alligatoring. You may need a can of BIN, to spot prime any stubborn areas. Do wait for full dry time between primer and top coat. If you top coat too soon, you are trapping vapors under that coat, and it also can cause some wrinklng. Also pay attention to recoat times for the topcoat, for wet on wet spray application, vs wet on dry application....See More7 year old Marvin windows cracked.
Comments (24)@mmrce6 thank you. What I was really trying to see was a close up of the possible break origination. Really difficult with condensation on the glass and such, but no worries and here is what I am thinking. Two things I was looking for, first was a horizontal crack from the muntin bar, which might be there in this close up, and to look at the vertical crack close to the muntin bar to see how parallel it is to the bar. One other question I forgot to ask, do you have a bar between the glass covered by the muntin bar? Two things from your pictures: first, your windows broke under some serious stress, and second is that the break appeared to originate at the muntin bar (both windows) and not at the outer edge of the IG unit which would be much more common. That the break appeared to be from the edge of the muntin bar my immediate thought was that your windows were painted on site and not from the factory and that's why I asked about painting in my first reply. Thermal stress breakage is almost always related to uneven heating/cooling of the glass rather than an overall high or low temperature. Thermal stress breakage is also usually very easy to identify and even quantify based on the location of the breakage and the characteristics of where the break originated and how it grew from the origination point. Without going into all the details, uneven temperature in the glass adds stress to the glass, and given enough stress the glass will crack. The greater the stress the more cracks will appear in the glass. Your breakage appears to have some characteristics of thermal failure and that's why I asked for close ups, but just because glass is hot or cold isn't a reason for it to break. Glass breaks due to stresses in the material and just being hot or being cold, especially within the very narrow limits of what we consider hot or cold at the temperatures we need to survive, there needs to be contributing factors. I suspect (and I am speculating based on pictures and descriptions, so keeping that in mind) that your painter used a razor blade to clean up along the edges of the glass, something very common (I have done it too), but something that can introduce flaws in the glass, even at microscopic levels. Normally glass can easily handle stress introduced by temperature swings, even severe ones, but because of possible flaws introduced into the glass due to being scored by the razor blade the stress was too much and the glass broke. Again keep in mind that I am speculating based on what evidence is available using pictures and descriptions, but that's what I am seeing. Is there anything unique about these two windows compared with others in your home? Do they face west by chance? Do they get full sun or are they usually shaded?...See MoreBlueBlob Gaming
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