Trying to decide between three smooth-top ranges - help please!
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Comments (12)If the manufacturer's product literature forbids use of a product by people with pacemakers, heed it by all means. That is probably a substandard product and it is a good thing that the maker/importer is telling you that.. That warning is not generally applicable to most induction cooking products, however. Some product manuals will use bland, "CYA" language about consulting your physician if you have a pacemaker. As if doctors have time time to know this. (One of our local docs called me when a patient asked her a question about this. I pointed the doc to the NIH site to find the studies. This isn't something the docs know about and the proliferation of products would make it hard to keep up, anyway). This concern seems to come up about once a year in this forum. Google "gardenweb + induction + pacemaker" to find previous discussions which also (IIRC) have links back to the NIH and medical studies summarized there. The gist of the medical studies is that there may be a magnetic field from induction cooktops that is detectible by instruments on the chests of persons with unipolar pacemakers (a relatively rare type) implanted on the left side, although the field seemed to be too weak to actually adversely affect those pacemakers. Apparently, no observable effects for other pacemakers. To be sure, persons with pacemakers are generally advised to avoid being within strong magnetic fields. For example, they generally should avoid getting an MRI (which involves putting the body into a strong magnetic field to produce the imaging data). If you have a pacemaker, it also is probably inadvisable to lean against an operating microwave oven (at least an older one whose shielding may have degraded). Nor should you hug an electrostatic loudspeaker, either. Cooking with induction should not give you any comparable field exposure. The magnetic field from induction burners falls off very rapidly within an inch or so of the burner surface. At normal cooking distances, the field might be detectable with sensitive instruments but seems far too weak to have any affect on pacemakers. Most cooks will not normally put their chests into very close proximity to a hot pan, let alone the burner under it. (Maybe if you have a pacemaker and are very short -- to the point where you need to stand with your chest pressed to the front of the stove in order to use a pan on the front burner --- then induction ranges might be something to worry about.) There is another study by an self-appointed "international commission"which is opposed to electromagnetic radiation (EMR) from electronic devices but that is a general health concern and not about pacemakers. If you are concerned about the EMR that surrounds us, from home devices like toasters and televisions to cell phones to power lines, then you probably want to avoid all electric stoves, induction or not. Also, and any gas stove with with a digtial oven control panel, too. Read beyond those studies and you'll find the internet is fraught with the usual array of half-informed mis-advice, hostile fan-boy flaming, paranoia, and just plain nonsense. I think it was last year that we ran across a website -- I think it was something like the Living Large site --- that actually told people to use plastic and wooden utensils when cooking with induction because you could electrocute yourself by touching a metal spoon to a pan on an induction burner. There are other postings which state that induction cooking is just like a microwave without the containment of the oven. Some folks probably view induction cooking as akin to cooking over nuclear waste. You get the idea. So, the bottom lines are these. First, if you have a pacemaker and your doctor says you shouldn't use induction, don't. Second, read the product manual for any induction appliance you are considering. If the manual says "not to be used by anybody with a pacemaker" it is probably a substandard product that you want to avoid, anyway. This post was edited by JWVideo on Mon, Jan 13, 14 at 15:12...See MorePlease help me decide on range and hood!
Comments (5)I like the Cafe unit and haven't had many complaints at all from my customers. It adds the second oven/warming drawer. Five burners, griddle, self-cleaning oven racks, and the look of a pro range. You could buy a Viking 30" all gas (VGCC5304BSS) on special. We're selling it for $3999 plus a $750 mail-in rebate plus another $150 facebook rebate from Viking, making it $3099 after rebates. The burners are all solid brass and all go to 15K and simmer very well. I also like the Capital GCR305 for $3899 less $500 mail-in rebate. Five burners, four of them at 19K and the 5th center burner at 25K with a reversible wok grate. All burners simmer at 140 degrees. The Viking and Capital are pro-style ranges, are all-gas, do not have self-cleaning, and don't have warming drawers. Gas ovens are more moist but are not quite as precise as electric convection ovens. I have a Bosch gas convection range and a Dacor electric convection oven at home. The Dacor does do a better job - but it's not night and day. Just slight differences. The Bosch slide-in range is dual-fuel, has the warming drawer. The grates are a little tall because of the gas-on-glass design, but overall a solid unit. The Bertazzoni is very nice, but the all-gas model will be pushing out heat between the control panel and top of oven door. You can hear the fan as well. The oven temp goes no lower than 275 degrees, so no warming feature. But for $3000 to $3500 a good unit. In my opinion, the Capital and Viking units on special are better units for the same money. The Dacor ER30G is the only gas range with new electronic technology controlling the temp inside it's gas oven. It performs as well as an electric convection oven. It can be purchased in free-standing or slide-in for $3599. The "Love you back" promo will get you a free 7-piece pots and pans set. 18K max burner. Have you considered an Induction range? It will perform just as well as gas with less heat and better distribution of the heat to your pan. The GE PHB925 runs around $2200 and has a warming drawer and convection oven. The Zephyr hood is nice, and so is the Kobe. I also like Vent-A-Hood. We have more service issues with Electrolux than other brands, but they have nice options. The BlueStar and Capital culinarian are nice choices for around $4000. Both with the open burners 22K or 23K distributing power more evenly and great for wok cooking....See MoreDeciding between 2 layouts - Please help
Comments (18)It doesn't sound like you're really up for the L format: to make an island kitchen seems to be your goal. What's with the bumpout on wall B-your original sink doesn't look bumped out? I'd keep a large single sink in the original location on wall B.You'll grow more counter on that run-use half of broom closet and charging station for shallow pantry[about 5feet].Fridge can go on wall C if you don't want it on wall B. Charging station can go in corner in dinette to the right of patio door. If you still need a small prep sink-put it on island -the large sink is removed from island. I would:get a microwave in large size with full features-it will have a keep warm setting[skip the warming drawer] I would probably not have the 2nd sink but make sure the primary sink is nice and adequate. I would not have the 2 pantries-the 5 foot shallow pantry borrowed from broom closet is plenty. With more counter now on wall B,and at most the small prep sink on island,I would shorten that long dimension to the island-it's all counter now[cooking surfaces are down on wall A] and looks super long-but you can leave it if you wish. there are ways to do L's in this kitchen-you could do it on wall c with the arm coming down into floorspace with a peninsula..or same from wall A-going up-or smaller L's from both wall A and C with a break in the middle for passage through. The island has it's perks but make it a free run for use and looks....See MoreKitchen Counters - Please Help Us Decide Between Two!
Comments (24)Yeah, so are we...Then again we were fairly green during the building process (almost wish this was our SECOND custom build, not our first) and the flooring guy seems like he goes with a set few things and sticks with them. We probably should have pushed harder with the tile or at least tried to pick counter and cabinet first THEN tile. It certainly seems like this tile has put us in a really weird spot as far as the counter goes. We absolutely love quartz, just can't seem to find a price that works for us. Obviously Ikea's $40 price would be absolutely dream come true, but the big boxes like Lowes and Home Depot, even on sale, are coming in around 60 or 70 with theirs, which puts us quite a bit over on cost. We noticed the gold in the photos as well...Though some who have seen it it person like the way the gray piece mixes with the cabinet color and feel it does pick up a little of the floor as well. Hoping maybe the grey might be our winner though I do worry about coordinating backsplash and paint if we go that route. Ugh....See MoreUser
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