Crazy! But understandable. I had to give up most whole wheat so haven't used much VWG recently, and had no clue. Thanks for the info.

I wonder if the rise in the use of GLP-1 medications and the need for eating a high protein diet - often supplemented by protein powders, drinks and bars - has anything to do with it.

There is a HUGE increase in people eating high protein diets, THAT is true. Hhhhmmmmmm. Last couple of times we've tried to buy whey protein powder--on sale....they're sold out! They put protein powder in pancake mix's now, that's new. Subway is advertising a protein burrito...that's NEW.

Plllog I am on Zepbound (a GLP drug) and joined a few online support groups for people taking the medication. It is truly unbelievable how MANY people approach using this miracle drug. They have no idea what to eat, how to get enough protein, think they can eat the same diet that made them fat and the shot is going to magically melt the fat away. Instead of eating real food, they exist on protein powders, shakes and bars, Constipation is a real problem with these drugs, so instead of making sure they are eating lots of veggies and fruit so they get as much fiber as possible, they then take fillers and laxatives to try to keep things moving. Some people end up in the hospital with impacted bowels. It's sad, really.

Wow! That is sad! This post is not directed at you, Olychick, or anyone else with sense and discernment, but... It's this wanting to believe in magic rather than reality. A crunchy green salad will help it all, especially with some dark greens and carrots. It'll give you bulk, fiber, vitamins, minerals, and make you feel full without the injection. And if you need to eat too much dressing to get it down (an effect which wears off over time), you're still getting a nice salad and it'll grease the pipes. Remove an egg elsewhere. :) Are these shot people getting enough iron? Every other "diet pill", short of speed, has the same warnings, so too for the devices, and the GLP-1s--they all have the same disclaimer: "results given with diet and exercise". It always seems to me that one could just skip to the healthy diet and exercise and skip the expensive, side-effect-ful magic pills/shots. (People who use mediaction responsibly and who pay attention to the rest of their health are not included in the foregoing.)

I know someone whose "diet" is every time she feels hungry or tired between meals, she stops what she's doing and dances for ten minutes. A little fun. A little exercise. Good for the digestion. And if people laugh at her, she figures she's getting the last laugh. It's free, freeing, and the only unfortunate side effects are needing to change clothes if she works up a sweat.

Do you have Azure Standard deliveries in your area? I just paid $5-something a pound for their smallest size..... VWG

I know they will ship in US, but no idea of prices.

@KatieC...I looked it up...looks like they'll drop ship it. I've never done that before...where you drive to a place and meet someone who has your order.... interesting. It'll be awhile before I need to order more....THANK YOU!

Katie, that looks interesting! If I ever heard about them before, it was in a context that didn't stick. Another THANK-YOU!

Did y'all see the people on TV a couple of weeks ago, who have a market where they buy in bulk and portion out their goods in returnable glass jars? They conceded the need for plastic packaging on meat. But their thing is to eliminate as much single use packaging as possible. It looked cool. They're in Colorado.

Pillog, Azure products often come in the canning jars they started carrying a couple of years ago. Honey, peanut butter....

Azure is like a food co-op on wheels. It's an interesting process. Everyone gathers when the semi pulls in and lines up to help unload. We have a drop just a couple of miles from home and live close enough to them that there's no delivery fees on $50 orders. Makes it pretty cost effective shopping for quality non-gmo stuff.

I'm in Colorado. It's an AMAZING place! My neighbor has bee hives. She's a retired physician...and is very responsible. She leaves food out for her bees in case they wake up early and want a snack. :0) Totally cool! I try not to bother her and buy local honey from ACE Hardware....even the hardware store is into ALL natural. :0)