Please help with landscaping ideas for small backyard
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Comments (3)" I wanted to do some type of patio in the middle with planting around the edges... Our intention is strictly landscaping, no structure." Since "landscaping" can consist of anything that might be in the landscape: walks, wall, drive, fence, plantings, etc.... we might not know what you mean by "no structure"... after you say you want to do "some type of patio...". SOMEONE must think of what goes where (do the design) and it will either be you with assistance from here, or it will be a designer that you hire. If you think you want to design the space, you might start be creating a scale base plan that shows the existing elements that will remain. Posting the base plan here will make it easier for people to comprehend the space and you will need it anyway if you're going to do the design. Including pictures that show how the space relates to the house and surrounding areas will be useful. So far, the pictures don't give a feel for how the house and space work together. Wouldn't you want a pathway connection between house and patio? So far, we can't see where that could possibly go. (The first picture is no good because of the intense shadow.) (BTW, you can post multiple photos in the same post; just list the code for each in succession.) It will be helpful if you describe in greater detail your objectives. For example, what size of a patio? Any thoughts on material to make it from? Want shade? Privacy? Screening? Etc. If you have an idea of the size, shape and location for a patio, you should show it and get feedback on it....See MoreHelp with landscaping SMALL backyard
Comments (10)share ideas for http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/design/msg1214085821098.html?3 I guess you are zone 6. "too ambitious"-----I like,dont worry small space,can plant trees small or big,can control tree grow scale by dirt thin rate.dont worry budget,garden plant is so slowly.we only do some every year,but enjoy our design goal. src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/landscapedesignchina/100_431011.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"> src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/landscapedesignchina/100_431010.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"> src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/landscapedesignchina/100_43109.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"> src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/landscapedesignchina/100_43108.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"> other ideas RE: Help with landscaping SMALL backyard Posted by: ideasshare (My Page) on Sat, Dec 13, 08 at 6:01 share ideas for http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/design/msg1214085821098.html?3 I guess you are zone 6. "too ambitious"-----I like,dont worry small space,can plant trees small or big,can control tree grow scale by dirt thin rate.dont worry budget,garden plant is so slowly.we only do some every year,but enjoy our design goal. here link is other ideas: groups.myspace.com/gardenideas RE: Help with landscaping SMALL backyard Posted by: karinl BC Z8 (My Page) on Sat, Dec 13, 08 at 12:56 No reason at all why you couldn't make a nice little ornamental garden here, whether dwarf conifers (head over to the conifers forum for a wealth of photos of plants and gardens) or the less groomed but also attractive perennial/deciduous garden. Almost incredibly, Ideasshare has actually visualized some options for opening up your design options, in particular changing the shape of the pathway. But you don't have to go to those lengths to make the space attractive. I do think I would incorporate some hardscape to give it form; maybe also a meandering path through it - unbroken, even one side is a big space for all garden. I'm still not quite getting a sense of whether you have a slope here or whether the space is flat. If sloped, terracing would be nice but you don't see the walls from above. Nonetheless, it breaks the space up and makes it nice to be in. This being a back yard, are there any functional issues need to be addressed. like a compost, or do you want some privacy? Those should be laid out in advance. I do love those glass balls (I got some in Germany when they were all the rage there) - they have to stay!! :-) KarinL Here is a link that might be useful: One conifer garden thread RE: Help with landscaping SMALL backyard Posted by: nhbabs z4b-5a NH (My Page) on Fri, Dec 19, 08 at 10:58 It sounds like you might want to spend time thinking about how you want to use the space and what you want out of it as well as how you want it to look. Veggies? Lawn? Sitting or dining area? Main entry way to get in & outside when entering & leaving the house? Play area for kids or animals? Privacy from neighbors or city noise? Also, how much work do you want to do? Would you be willing to redo the walkway or the patio? Are you willing to build raised beds or hire someone to do work for you? Because your question is so open-ended, you may not get too many responses. I find that looking at pictures really helps me visualize possibilities in a way I can't when simply looking at what I'm starting with. Here is a link to one designer's portfolio who has done many small urban spaces that seem to be used as outdoor sitting/dining areas. He also has written several books that are well illustrated. He's just one of many designers whose work you can look at to see what you like and to imagine if that type of design would work for how you want to use the space. Your local public library can be a great resource for garden design books as they not only have their own collections, but also probably do an interlibrary loan service that would give you access to other library's collections. Here is a link that might be useful: Keith Davitt design portfolio RE: Help with landscaping SMALL backyard Posted by: bjcoop 5-6 (My Page) on Mon, Dec 29, 08 at 10:34 Wow! With the Holidays, I havent had a chance to check back here. WOW Ideashare. You are a magician with the photos! Lots of ideas here. Never thought of changing the shape of the bricks. Also the idea of how best to enjoy and use the backyard is important. It does need to be low maintenance. It does need to be playspace (and other) for our minpin. Will study all of these ideas. One thing, I plan to keep the gazing balls. Our minpin is stupified by them. (: (: RE: Help with landscaping SMALL backyard Posted by: ideasshare (My Page) on Tue, Dec 30, 08 at 8:27 It does need to be low maintenance------is good idea. Shrubs in general tend to be less maintenance than perennials for many of the reasons,no need for deadheading, dividing, staking, cutting back or cleaning up seasonally and typically require less watering once established due to wider, more extensive root systems. But to decrease maintenance even further, select those shrubs which are recognized as being fully hardy and well suited to climate and growing conditions, drought tolerant (once established), disease and pest resistant and not requiring excessive pruning to maintain health or size. Check with local extension office for their recommendations and visit some of better local retail nurseries in season for ideas. And I wouldn't necessarily want to eliminate ALL herbaceous perennials - some are quite a bit less maintenance than others. A mixed border that includes a variety of shrubs, perennials, grasses, groundcovers and even a few small trees generally will provide year long interest and color with relatively low maintenance. Here is a link that might be useful: share other some ideas RE: Help with landscaping SMALL backyard Posted by: karinl BC Z8 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 31, 08 at 14:57 Just to clarify -Ideasshare is apparently a Chinese forum participant who doesn't have much idea of North American culture or norms but is doing his/her best o join in here with photo manipulation. The results are bizarre but (as in this case) occasionally useful. Unfortunately, s/he has just branched out into giving written advice, which seems to be simply a compilation of plagiarized phrases that s/he probably doesn't even quite know the meaning of - not specifically thought out suggestions for you. Not that it isn't good info, but take it for what it is. KarinL Post a Follow-Up Your Name: Your Email Address: Zone (optional): Subject of Posting: Message: Optional Link URL: Name of the Link: Return to the Landscape Design Forum...See MoreLandscaping a small backyard in Houston
Comments (10)Explore the drainage problem by looking OUTSIDE of your own lot lines and get an understanding for how water is supposed to move through the surrounding neighborhood. It travels from one person's yard into and adjacent yard on it's ways downhill. Where does your yard fit in the downhill path relative to your neighbors' yards? When water doesn't drain out of a yard, it's sometimes because its path is blocked by something a neighbor has created. Look outside of your fence and see if that is the case. Where is the drainage problem showing up? Is there a desire for privacy? It looks like one neighbor's house has a looming view of your deck. If I lived there, I would want screening from their back deck and upstairs window. Also in the view are some less than pleasant features ... I would want screening from seeing roofs and bits of neighboring houses that show up in the background. Being as you are in Houston, you could incorporate some tropical flavor into the scene. Hate to say it, but one of the most disconcerting aspects of your back yard is the fence itself. Cheapest way to spruce it up would be paint. Or it could be screened with any length of suspended trellis, but this means working vines into the scheme. I wouldn't bother with lawn grass. By the time you allocate space to some of the nicer things you could grow, there'd be so little room left over for grass, it wouldn't be worth the bother of maintaining it. Check out perennial peanut 'Ecoturf. It blooms for 10 months out of the year where the weather is warm. I have it as a lawn and mow once a year in early spring with a motorless reel mower to tidy up in the Spring. It's low growing and can be walked on so would be perfect for your small space. I'm not intending that you take the picture literally. What It's showing are suggestions for: 1. How to extend the screening height of fencing without smothering the ground floor space with bushiness. 2. Placing the herb garden at the right end, adjoining it to the garden at the side of house. 3. An approximate limit on the number/size of plants that will fit comfortably in the space. 4. A foreground of low growing groundcover ... a lawn substitute. 5. A way to link all the disparate objects with a second, slightly taller groundcover. 6. Instead of hiding the electrical utility box, paint it to your liking and use Plumbago at each side, adjacent to fence. 7. Plant larger sections along the fence with a group of shrubs/perennials or a single specimen of grass, shrub or perennial ... whatever fits without crowding something adjacent. I didn't show it, but single tree location could be a group of Pindo Palms for some tropical flavor. It's one of the shorter feather palms. Pretty cold hardy. Also did not show, but if you want shade for patio consider a small tree placed at the open (right) end. Does Golden trumpet (Tabebuia chrysotricha) grow there? Or for really fast shade, a tight cluster of Papaya (grow from seed.)...See MoreLandscape - backyard needs help, please
Comments (2)I know it's hard for you to believe now, but the yard is very crowded since most of those trees are going to get huge. I would not want either blue spruce that close in the foreground because you're not going to like removing their bottom branches when they get large, but you'll be forced to because they will totally dominate the space, leaving you no yard in which to walk. Then, there is the oak tree right near that's going to grow up and shade the spruce out, making them ugly. I'd move those two spruce back in line with the one nearest the fence just to get them farther away, and they would serve as decent screening for a good while. Fill in the remainder of the fence line with two or three other tall shrubs that can be made into trees ... like lilac or something along those lines. Move the trees from the center of the yard more toward the yard sides. Keep the center of the yard open, just grass. It's all going to be shady someday, but needs more organization now....See Moredjacob Z6a SE WI
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