schoolhouse, we're painting those and adding new counters. I'm okay with doing that as we just re-did the kitchen in my cottage last summer in a beautiful green.

I am glad that I procrastinated so much as I was pretty set on getting a lovely drum chandelier. Even though it seemed to be perfect, something just didn't sit well with me. I kept thinking what Mtn articulated. Though some are truly beautiful, I started to feel like it would be very 2018 ish and might not age well.

I started looking againg and I really like this one but it is too big for my room- but I'll share it here.

Savoy Cameron.

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I also really like this one- which is a tad smaller and much less $

Safavieh Darryn

Just sharing because they are pretty classic and I think very attractive.

Do you need a chandelier? To me, a chandelier would accentuate the lack of a table. I'd consider putting something closer to the ceiling for lighting, let your hutch play center stage and save the one you have to be put up when you are ready to sell. Bonus points -- those fixtures tend to be a lot less pricey and you can put your budget elsewhere. Just a thought

I find lighting super frustrating bc to me the trends come and go so quickly for something that should last a decent amount of time in a home. I mean, they seem to cycle at the rate of clothing fashion!

That said…I am digging the lighting in plaster finishes…it seems to add a nice touch of ”modern” to jazz up traditional decor. Here is an example…some seem rather pricey, but I expect there are some in all price ranges.

I was wondering the same thing lascatz was. There is not going to be a table, right?

What is going where the table is now?

If you're not doing a table, what will you be doing with the space? Looks like the celing is high, so you could easily do a chandelier. I like the one nini posted. The stools you are considering is traditional, as is the hutch. I would not lean too far into the transitional category.

DD2 used this one in their bedroom. (shades have been corrected).

From PB is popular, also comes in black.

The hutch was a good find. I did not post on your knob thread, but I would leave as is. Def no to the bunnies.

We have the "pricier version" jilly suggested above and I really love it. The shades are linen-like, but have aged well except when DH put in too strong of a bulb and one of them is now a slightly browner shade of cream. We have the matching 3 light down version over our island. They are both from Visual Comfort. I also really like the two allison suggested above. All 3 seem like a slightly modern take on vintage.

Lascatz makes a great point. I think what was bothering me was the chandelier over nothing. I'm going to look for flush mount. This is why I so love this board--you all offer different perspectives that I wouldn't see on my own.

Is your ceiling flat?

It looks like it;s flat at the top. How high is it at the top? Look for semi-flush if you're going that route.

If you have room for a couple of sitting chairs and a small table you could do a chandelier.

I was looking at chandeliers for living rooms and pictures all seem to show the lighting being anchored by a coffee table or sitting area.

Here is the ceiling. More barn than cathedral.

How much light do you need in there? I would think 6-8 bulbs? Or will you have lamps in the room?

I missed where you said what you were going to do with this room when you remove the table.

I think you have a lot of flexibility as to what you might put there. Flush may not give you enough light.

Project creep alert --- would you consider some comfy seating there. It's nice to have a place to visitors to sit while you cook. Like two armchairrs and a small table

I thought I had seen photo(s) of your kitchen area, but cannot find. Can you post, so we aren't suggesting options based on part of a space?

Is there a reason you want to do counter stools instead of a small table? If you don't want to do a floating table, would you do a small one and use the window seat and a couple of chairs?

I love your room, and the reno is going to be fabulous. Would you consider no overhead lighting? I opted out of it for the sitting area that is open to our kitchen which has a beamed cathedral ceiling. We have a bit of recessed lighting near the fireplace. We hardly ever use that, as we prefer the lighting from lamps. My parents had a cathedral ceiling in their condo with a (nice) lighted ceiling fan to move the air around. They never used the light feature either. Overhead lighting is not generally flattering to the room, imo. And I do like Mtns idea of some comfy seating there.

If you are keeping the current overhead bar lights, maybe consider a single pendant light. The ceiling rafters around a flush might obstruct the output.

Hmm. The vaulted ceiling and off center mount make it challenging. Anything that calls attention to itself could seem awkward. It has to either be flush or hang low enough to seem to make sense with the vault but not interfere with the hutch and ask where the table is. Are you going to have any seating -- a pair of chairs with a small table, where a table or floor lamp could carry some of the load?

Teeda's fan suggestion would be popular here in the south -- vaulted ceilings need air movement in the heat. But if you go that route, be careful of the light placement relative to the blades to make sure you don't get a strobe effect.

From the edge of the new counter (overhang) to the hutch is only 7.5 feet. That is before stools which shouldn't be pushed against the counter, even if empty, imo. And when people are sitting there, the stools may take up even more real estate. So maybe closer to six feet? There really isn't room for any extra sitting area. Plus, if you look at the first picture, you can slightly see a window seat on the right, next to the hutch. I can get a thicker pad made and pillows for the side.

Also, the current lighting is centered on the ceiling. I just took a crappy pic.

I am thinking a pretty rug in front of the hutch would look nice (think vintage hooked vibe, but my dogs would probably ruin it as the door to the backyard is right there,)

you've got this

I like the ceiling, it’s different. A vintage hooked rug would look mahvellous, but a washable rug would be even better 🙂

Put a thicker cushion on the window seat and a small coffee table in front. Maybe a small chair on the other side centered closer to the buffet with maybe an oval rug capturing the coffee table and small chair.

If you're eating at the counter, I;ve been concerned about a shadow being created by your heads from a chandelier hanging behind you. But what if you were to swag (I know!) a chandelier so that it hung over the new seating area then the light would come from the side.

I like the ceiling too. 7.5ft is tight, so I can understand not wanting a table. A comfy cushion and some pillows in the window seat will provide a nice, temporary landing spot.

I would wait and decide on a light fixture after everything else was done. They are often the last thing I select for a room. Maybe you'll run across a vintage piece or spy the perfect one when you least expect.

I remembered the window, but not that it was a window seat, and I now get that the center of the ceiling is a flat section where I was seeing a peak with the light to one side. I've had both, but my eye defaulted to a V. That's me, sorry. The ceiling is beautiful either way. So the lighting is not so tricky, and that's good, but I agree that things like light fixtures can wait until you find just the right thing.

Could you consider a small scale comfy chair and small table (or use the window seat as a side table) or a small bistro set in front of the window seat and perhaps treat the window seat more as a place for books, plants, etc?

I would definitely play up that window seat! I think sitting area there might be nice. I agree with waiting till you get more things in place and then finding a light.

Do you need overhead light specifically in that former dining space? If sufficient light is available at the counter area, I would perhaps just do a flush mount in the former dining space, or at least something that doesn't hang down too far. Even with the pretty ceiling, anything that looks chandy-like may make it look like a table ought to be below it. Maybe consider a floor lamp or small lamps on the hutch for accent lighting.

I love that room, ceiling included. It has character and charm. The wood the hutch is made from is beautiful and adds warmth. It could easily be a sitting room with some comfy upholstered chairs.

We're all in agreement, I think. I'm going to wait until the countertops are in and then start looking for a flush, or semi flush ceiling mount. In the meantime, I'm looking at hooked rugs...This one has caught my eye. . .I've always been a huge fan of Claire Murrray hooked rugs.

Just need to confirm the size. The listing says 3x4 but the details says 36" x 60". I would loove 36X 60 and how pretty is this???

i think that somehow feels more like a mat then a rug? Have you looked at Ruggables; with dogs that might be a good choice.

I sort of agree, Mtn, but I'm hoping that 3x5 sort of bypasses mat territory. It is also the size I am looking for since the hutch is 60" wide. i'm also super drawn to that vintage look that Claire Murray rugs seem to have. While I was on the site, I thought that the Nantuckett ones would look great in yoour Maine home. I also saw this one, but it seems to veer more towards cutsey than nature.. I wouldn't use it in my home despite my near obsession with rabbits.

Overall, though, I have to say that I remember these rugs from my young adulthood. I waas shocked to hear that Claire Murray is still alive and productive!

Jojoco, my mother has had this Claire Murray bunny rug in her kitchen since the 1990’s and it has held up beautifully (in a home of one woman and no pets, but still…).

Hers could be 3 x 5 or possibly 4 x 6. It’s very nicely made.

Claire Murray rugs are still pretty popular in my area, she actually lives here and is still alive!! i have a 10 Ft kitchen runner that is 14 years old. Made from wool the rug is still in decent shape .

I read in one of your kitchen threads that your original plan was for a farmhouse light. Since you seem to lean toward farmhouse/cottage style and want brass, I found this one that I thought had possibilities. I think the light should act as a decorative element and not disappear into the ceiling like a flush or semi-flush would. A chandelier is too much but a larger pendant would be just right. Maybe it's larger and heavier than what you have in mind but I haven't seen anything else yet that would work in that room. To me it complements the stone flooring and woodwork and the hutch.

https://www.lampsplus.com/products/open-box/quoizel-barlow-20-inch-wide-weathered-brass-and-glass-4-light-pendant__99m41.html

Oh, wow, those are perfect, jojo. I love that style.

Not sure why I can’t edit this one time but anyway. Having those stools is making me reconsider getting rid of my lighting. I know, but before you all colossally groan, take a look at how it looks now that it raised. (For the time being,). I like how it compliments, the farmhouse feeling of the hutch, and it will also run in the same direction as the counter.

Yes, keep for now. It looks good and you can revisit the decision later.

I like it and the square rectangular pattern in the chandelier repeats the pattern in the ceiling. The candles give a warm feel too. I agree with everyone who said wait til the kitchen area is done before making any changes now. You may not have to!

It looks good raised up! Perfect solution.

I'll probably regret this, but I got sucked into an eSalerugs.com sale. I've bought from them before when I needed to stage my last home with inexpensive rugs and the two non wool rugs I bought in 2018 have held up really well. So I just ordered one for in front of the hutch. Worst case scenario I return it. It was only $69 (plus $39 thick pad) and it also isn't wool so I don't have to worry if my dogs trash it. But I like the vibe and it feels a bit french farmhouse to me (I think I just made up that category. Here is the pick from the room visualizer. Remember, all the green will be a cream color. The walls are a clean white, but not blindingly white.

The comments say it is more subdued in person. I did 4 x 6 which gives a nice swath, but still won't hit the chairs. My only question is how to do a window seat. . .

I’ve recommended that rug to posters on the decor boards, I like it!

I ordered an Afghan Kilim rug from eSaleRugs a few years back, I treasure it.

Love the counter stools and rug will be a nice pop of color in your soon to be neutral room. You are on a roll!

The rug looks great and the counter stools are perfect!

Regarding how to do window seat…what is the size of it? You might be able to find a cushion that’s meant for a bench?

Jojo, i saw there pendants in a new construction, $3m house . If you like them, there is currently one for sale at Velvet Shoestring in Wayne.

$555.90

You can just google window seat/bench cushions and a whole selection comes up. Or you can go to an upholsterer, choose your own fabric and have one made. I've done that in the past/ You just want to make sure that whatever is inside is thick enough and dense enough to be comfortable.

I’ve seen lots of people on Etsy who make cushions.

I’m not recommending this specific one, I’ve not used them, it was just the first that came up for me:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1194620266/elegant-sofa-cushion-bench-cushion?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=cushions&ref=sc_gallery-1-5&pro=1&frs=1&sts=1&plkey=604979af0461481e57f90174c85b73e323910b78%3A1194620266

It would be fun to pick a pattern you love and have one custom made, like bl said.

Or a solid, with lots of great pillows and a cute little table ….

oh my ded! I just spent some solid time browsing velvet shoestring FB page.

I guess I'll say thanks for sharing. What a rabbit hole. :)

Salonva, it is! Some things look better online than in the store, so if you consider a bigger purchase, i suggest going in to see it. The town of Wayne is so cute.

OOh coming along so nicely! I even love what you put in the cab!