KD help plz! Wall ovens or range? Which cabinets should be glass?
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Comments (14)jmith, thank you AGAIN! I really appreciate your posts :-) Uh...where does the air make-up unit go?? Breezygirl, wow, thank you for your thoughtful and reasoned post! Yes, upon reflection, an underccounter oven would not be good for my back. I was thinking that maybe I would only use the second oven for parties and holidays, but sometimes we have friends over every weekend. Good point about the cost of separate ovens. I do like the look of double ovens, too. Especially the Bosch 800 series and the Kenmore Pro, but it is very hard to find anything on them...few mixed reviews online. I will ask on this forum. And do some research on Electrolux as well, since they seem to be popular here. I saw the Wolf cooktop at Great Indoors. My mother has a Wolf range, but she hates to cook. Lol. OK, will also look for the Capital. Hadn't heard of it until this forum. Yes, found ajmadison and HomeEverything. HomeEverything has slightly better prices, and usually free shipping. Yes, you're right, I couldn't find a published price on the GE Monogram counter-depth anywhere. I have to call or email each site to get the price, and from what you and the GI saleslady said, there probably won't be much difference except for no tax if I buy online. I have accepted that I can't vent with an OTR MW. I will have to spring for an undercabinet hood. Bleah. $1400. Ugh. Loss of cabinet space. Boo. I am thinking that, since I was planning for stacked 42" + !2" or 36" + 18", I will have to mount the MW under a cabinet...h'mmm...maybe I will have to do a mullion door on a 36" or 42", since the 12" or 18" are supposed to be mullion? Thought briefly about putting MW in island, but kids are 6 and 10 and tall, too. LOVE the Kitchens forum. Haven't posted my floor plan yet, trying to get up the courage to post pics of my truly UGLY kitchen. It doesn't look as bad or difficult on the floor plan as it does in the pictures Will check with contractor. Presumably he is up on all this stuff. Never heard of MUA until cooksnsews mentioned it! The GE Monogram ZFSB25DXSS is currently $3825 @ Great Indoors, on sale. I liked it bc it is 25 cu ft and well-planned inside. It looks.like close to the same amount of space that we have in our KA Superba, which we bought 9 years ago and has never given us a problem. I will look at KA fridges, thank you! I need the MW drawer money for the undercabinet hood. Boo. But the fridge isn't in my appliance budget, anyway. Lol....See MoreWhich? and why? (range versus rangetop/wall ovens)
Comments (9)I think you're asking how other people made the choices they did? Here was my reasoning for what I'm in the process of having installed: 1. Having had a propane boiler installed, we could now have a gas cooktop. My DH wanted a 36" cooktop 2. I wanted to have an electric oven, because I prefer it for making bread etc. 3. Having had a 24" for the last 10 years, without causing too much trouble, and a variety of 24" ovens in the UK for 20 years before that, I had absolutely no need for a 36" wide oven. Nor a 30" oven. 4. I had no need for double ovens, and based on your comments, it sounds like you don't either. 5. Space is limited, so the oven is to be mounted below the cooktop. 6. fuel efficiency is important to us, so, again, a 27" oven makes much more sense than a huge one. (And I managed to cook Thanksgiving Turkey quite happily in that 24" oven! - like most Brits, we have them for Christmas too, so I've never accepted that argument for a huge oven. It just takes planning) Based on all of that, we opted for a 36" Bertazzoni cooktop, and a 27" Bosch oven, mounted below. That's how we reached OUR choices - YMMV!...See MoreWhy should I get double wall oven or 2 ovens?
Comments (9)I've only ever had one oven and wish I could have a second. It seems that every time I've doing a roast or pizza, for example, I want to have a side dish or dessert also in the oven--but at a different temperature. Or more racks of cookies or some such than I can fit in one oven. This has only really become a problem after retirement when we have 3 meals a day at home and entertain more now than ever. Like you, when we were working I used the range for one thing occasionally and the rest was take-out or micro. For this house, I got a combo micro/convection oven that I can use but it's not very big and the dish has to be small enough to rotate in the cavity. It's not the most functional setup but it's the most cost effective for us. Or (as someone said in thread I've included) I adjust the menu to avoid the oven traffic jam. For resale, I would not ignore a house with just one oven even now after retirement. If you're truly concerned about one oven affecting resale, maybe you can plan a cabinet that someone could later retrofit without ripping out the kitchen?? Or, have your one oven be nicer than the perhaps builder-grade double ovens in the neighbors' houses. There's another thread discussing a wall oven vs range, which could perhaps help you too. Personally, now having a wall oven at waist level rather than a range at practically floor, plus being tall and a bad back, I would only want a range if I also have a wall oven. All this said, you've said your lifestyle doesn't use an oven much: do you see that changing while you're at this house? Is this your forever house where maybe your lifestyle will change like mine did (though we cheated and moved lol)? Is the extra money for a second oven going to be an issue requiring sacrifice of something else better for your lifestyle? Maybe thinking about it with these types of questions in mind will be helpful. hth Here is a link that might be useful: wall oven vs range...See MoreWhich cabinets should be glass front?
Comments (31)Since you're painting your cabinets anyway, I think you will have good luck finding additional cabinetry to match up with your current door/drawer fronts at Habitat ReStores. I really think you should consider combining the improved layout suggestions from laughable and may_flowers. Your kitchen would be so much more functional and easy to work in! And I think it would look more open and airy as well. If you're able to DIY moving the cabinets, which isn't all that hard to do if you know how to use basic tools and a level, it should be fairly inexpensive. Some plumbing would need moving for the DW but that should be a fairly easy plumbing job. If you can't DIY that, I don't think the plumber's fee would be much. But, of course, you'd want to get quotes on that before proceeding if the budget is tight. I think the only real expense then would be changing the flooring. Unless you're lucky and the flooring goes under the peninsula and island, then you wouldn't even have that expense. I can relate to needing to motivate The Hubster! I bribe with pie but someone else mentioned other more, ahem, private ways of motivating, lol. Maybe pie in bed? :)...See MoreUser
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