contractor (“kd”) refusing to fix shoddy work
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Contractor Refused to Complete Job...Then Liened My House!
Comments (23)brutuses, you sure could do a lot with that money and our four-legged friends, I agree! robin0919, maybe this will help clear up your confusion: GC = Blue Oak Builders Sub/Contractor = Western Wall Systems (aka Bay Foam, aka BayStone Group), the drywall/stucco/masonry subcontractor GC did not walk off the job. Nothing happened between us and the GC. We are not O/B, the GC is responsible and having a GC was a requirement by the bank. Contractor walked off the job. I don't know why. I wish I knew why that contractor would leave the job before it's complete and then file a lien as if he completed the job. You say it makes no sense at all. I say it makes no sense at all. At least we agree on that. This was when we saw the first signs of trouble, as written on WesternWallSystems.com: As of July 26, 2008 we paid WWS a total of $153,365.00 and were current on all payments. However, when we requested a meeting with Tim Ritter to discuss quality concerns about the project on August 6, 2008, he was a no-call, no-show. Maybe after all the re-work was done to correct some of their previous mistakes (for instance, re-applying the brown coat on the entire house because they put a rough coat instead of a smooth coat the first time around) they figured there wasn't enough profit to finish the job? Is that why once they received payment on 7/26/08, the owner of Western Wall Systems had the audacity to be a no-call, no-show to an appointment with us and the GC 11 days later on 8/6/08? I have no idea, this is purely an assumption on my part in an attempt to try figure out why. Maybe they're taking our $150,000+ and filing a frivolous lien in an unethical attempt to force us to pay "just to clear the lien" so we can close escrow. I'm sure someone somewhere probably paid off a lien, even if they didn't think it was legitimate, just so that they could close escrow. Sounds like a loophole in the system that allows unethical contractors to extort money from homeowners... Here is a link that might be useful: WesternWallSystems.com...See MoreKD / potential contractor = stress
Comments (14)First of all - YOU should NOT have to be going through all of the CRAP!!! In a perfect world - this whole process should )actually) be FUN - However, since this is NOT a "perfect world" - there MAY be set backs, delays and/or cost over runs - but generally speaking (IMHO) this process should still have a reasonable amount of "fun" still in the contents.... Zeebee said what I was going to say too - red flags with your present KD.... Also - there's TONS of wisdom being put out here by the likes of Cheri 127, Zeebee, Live Wire Oak and Kitchenconfidential 2.... I'll add my own .02 cents on this as well - There are MANY people who will pretend to be KD's - maybe because they did a whole ONE remodel of THEIR OWN kitchen, or have watched some TV shows on remodeling, or are really good at researching stuff on the internet - THESE attributes DO NOT qualify folks to be real honest to goodness KD's. The folks that actually ARE the "real deal" (real Kitchen DESIGNERS - NOT "decorators") ACTUALLY have CREDENTIALS, KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE to back up the "talk they talk - with the walk they walk".... Sounds to me like you have "gotten in bed" with a "pretend" KD - a "decorator" (IMHO) that may know "pretty" - but does not have clue about how "looking pretty" gets executed into BEING pretty - the actual application of each trade and the materials that are used - along with how things go into place, and "the order of battle" - TO MAKE A FINISHED PRODUCT THAT IS YOUR KITCHEN PROJECT. Most "decorators" are really good with color, and can pick out drapes, but when ot comes to laying out a kitchen in CAD for cabinets AND countertops - they're "looking like a scared deer in the headlights" :-o They're clueless when it comes to "what gets done first, then what, and so on. I despise "decorators" they make guy's lives (like mine) in the trades - A LIVING HELL, and.... There's days where I'm sure that other guys like me fantasize about - "if MERCY KILLING were LEGAL" - "decorators" be the on the TOP OF THE LIST!!! But alas - as the saying goes: "Decorators - Can't Live WITH 'em - Can't KILL 'em" HA!!!! Anyways - all playful kidding aside........ It also sounds to me - like (from the amount of time that you are waiting on two or three other bids - that EITHER the other GC's don't want to work with you beacuse of your current KD imposter - OR - business is really good in your area.. I hope it's the latter - because here in AZ = GC's are breaking the sound barrier to get bids back to customers - so they can get more volume of work. Your in a tuff spot, but if you stay cool and READ everything that gets put in front of you to sign - and UNDERSTAND IT - you will be ahead of the curve..... I'd be looking for a REAL KD in the mean time - contact NKBA to find some other prospects in your area.... a link is below for you to check out... hth kevin...See MoreContractor refused to fix his mistakes unless we pay
Comments (10)Thank you for responding. How elderly? My dad is in his 80's. This contractor knows that my parents are not likely to go to court (at their age). I have done my best to step in to try to get the contractor to fix his mistakes at no additional cost to my parents, but he reminded me that the contract is with my parents, not me. I do need to get on that contract. About the kitchen cabinets, my father wrote to him that there is to be no space above the cabinets. The contractor never discussed anything with us, and suddenly one day those 36-inch cabs arrived and were put up without our knowledge. I then told him about the problem, and he agreed to order taller cabinets. I thought the cabs were being made, but I found out that he never ordered them. The addition was supposed to be finished at that point, so we felt stuck with what was installed. I'm sure he would have charged us for a new set of upper cabs and labor. He made a mistake for the fridge space, and he refused to fix it unless my parents paid. This was holding up installing the appliances and other work in the kitchen. My father felt like he had to pay to get the work going again to completion. I told the contractor that he cannot charge for his mistakes, and his response was: "if you want the changes, you have to pay." This week, a subcontractor was there to do work, and the contractor was not there to supervise. If it were up to me, I would have fired his sorry butt a long time ago. The addition is almost finished now (over 8 months over). This post was edited by grass-cat on Fri, Jan 9, 15 at 10:17...See MorePaying contractor for unfinished work
Comments (11)I wrecked a $300.00 faucet on a $2,500.00 sink replacement job. I would not allow the customer to pay her $2,000.00 balance or even partially (although she offered) until the replacement faucet arrived and I had successfully installed it. Only after she was delighted did I collect the $1,700.00 balance due. I completed another replacement on Wednesday, but wasn't able to refinish her Corian tops until yesterday. I collected nothing additional until then and again refused partial payment. No partials. Sit on all the money. I would be ashamed to ask for a penny from an unhappy customer. Ever....See MoreGeorganne Dermigny
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