Zone 5b (Maine) Hardy Romantic Roses
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PUZZLER: Hardy, constantly blooming, pink climber for zone 5b???
Comments (34)Rebecca, I've had Felix LeClerc for about 9 years and I echo the fantastic comments of everyone about him. He's among the first roses to bloom in late May here in zone 5, and he's totally cane hardy and pretty indestructible. It took about 4-5 years before he rebloomed very well, but now I get blooms pretty steadily into July, and scattered blooms off and on even into November. As for height, I think we'd be in the same boat being in close zones. Felix is hardy to zone 3 at least so I think you're still looking at cane hardiness. Mine is about 8' tall and he puts out laterals pretty well, so if you pull the main canes horizontally along your 8X4' trellis you should be able to get it fairly well covered after a while. Like all climbers, he takes a good 4 years to come into his own so be patient. Also, I find his canes to be pretty stiff so I wouldn't expect to do the zigzag canes you can do with more flexible climbers like Crown Princess Margaretha. You also want to make sure your trellis is pretty strong, given that those sturdy canes can pull down an average wood trellis in the wind. You didn't ask for pictures, but here's one of Felix trying (and not succeeding) to pull down a 6' fake iron (aluminum) fence. You can see that even 4' or so away from the fence he can easily reach the top. For years I didn't realize he was supposed to be a climber so I kept pruning him lower to keep him in line. Fortunately it made him bush out and he's forgiven me since. Mine was from HCR too and he's absolutely fine on his own roots. Have fun Cynthia...See Morerose suggestions for zone 5b/6a
Comments (11)Okay--another question for ya--have you considered miniatures, since you'd prefer something more mannerly? Many of them have fabulous bloom form that never collapses, especially if you're looking for that perfect, tight spiral. Most minis aren't that fragrant, but there are a few that are fabulous. I'm sitting outside right now, so I'll give you a rundown of some of mine that fit the bill: Voodoo - Tall & narrow grower. Lovely orange-juice colored blooms with yummy fragrance that are phototropic and change in sunlight to a screaming scarlet-orange. Pretty darn good disease resistance. Jean Kennealley, an apricot miniature. She has the bonus of fragrance, and gets pretty big for a mini. Spent blooms will flatten out & fade to nearly white, but I think she's spectacular. She's held a very high rating for a long time. Folklore is a hybrid tea with perfect spirals & yellow reverses to coral petals. Lovely scent, big shrub, good disease resistance. Grows taller than it does wide, at least for me. Gemini is a drop-dead gorgeous hybrid tea. New blooms open ivory with just a hit of a deep coral picotee, then it changes with sunlight to almost a completely coral flush. Mine like to pitch candelabras and I think that's due to the Grandiflora breeding line. Great scent. Flawless is a true, medium pink miniflora with a nice scent. It is very disease resistant for me & blooms like crazy, but it tends to have more decorative or frilly blooms than the classic high spirals. I love it nonetheless. I really want to recommend Secret, but I have to spray her to keep her happy. The scent and the blooms are worth it, though. It does not mind the heat and rain does not spot her blooms as badly as most of my other light-colored roses. How white is your white requirement? I grow Irresistible, another miniature. It has no scent, but oh MY!! The blooms retain their form for at least a week and a half, it grows spectacularly, it's very mannerly, and disease resistant. It is a bit cream-colored upon close inspection but looks white from a distance. Also in my white-ish category is World War II Memorial. It's technically a mauve, but from a few yards back it appears to be white. It has glorious scent, very good disease resistance, and I just cannot describe the way the blooms contrast with an almost forest-green set of foliage. The aroma is incredible. It does spot with rain, unfortunately, but it's one of the few whose spots aren't that unattractive. If we get rain while there are blooms present, it looks like a white rose with pink freckles. One of the hardiest I have is Garden Party, but I'd describe it as an ivory rose that likes to have pink petticoats every now and then. Very good disease resistance and AWESOME fragrance, but mine grows like Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors. I think I witnessed her eating a rabbit this morning. [Or maybe it was that Swamp Tea.] All of these are repeat blooming, and I'd say that Flawless, Folklore, and Irresistible are the quickest to repeat. Gemini is sluggish, but when she blooms, she chucks out about 30 at a time. I live where blackspot pressure is very high due to silly nighttime cooling and condensation. I spray for blackspot, but these are the best of my 60 roses that fit your bill. And since I am too lazy to edit my post [Swamp Tea again...dangit], I totally forgot Tahitian Sunset. I am in love with this rose and put her in a bad spot where I can't admire her while on the deck. It is a skyscraper of a hybrid tea with apricot to pink blooms that have a perfect spiral, and the scent is unusual. It has been described as anise, licorice, myrhh....but everyone at work loves to stick their nose in her when I bring her in. Very, very good disease resistance. These are some of my faves, and if you haven't been over to HMF to check out people's rose pics I would encourage you to do so. There is no better enabler for rose buying than this website and that one, combined....See MoreNeed some zone 5b info on these roses
Comments (4)I have or have grown all the ones on your list, and by far the easiest and most rewarding one is Earth Song. It's trouble free, disease resistant, blooms all summer, and has at least some surviving cane most winters. The blooms are loosely double hot pink and it can make an impressive mound at about 5' by 4' if happy. All of the "Peace" varieties are variably tender for me even in a protected area, so I'm impressed that Dingo has overwintered two Pink Peace plants. At least 3 tries each for Pink Peace and Peace have failed, and Chicago Peace seems to be failing its second try. Same for Colorific - three tries in protected areas and it doesn't survive well. Star of the Nile died after two tries, and Gentle Giant only once, but it was in my protected spot. Among the "Easy" series, Livin' Easy is a better hardy rose than Easy Does it that can be variably hardy. Livin Easy puts out orange loosely double blooms and tops out a little over knee height for me, probably more if it had surviving cane. It's relatively trouble free. Dick Clark and Dream Come True are fabulous blooms of more traditional "rose" looking hybrid tea blossoms, both with dark pink edges on the blooms. I love the zowie pow high contrast of Dream Come True especially, and it's about 4-5' tall in a very narrow bush, and blooms a couple of spectacular blooms a year. Not exactly bushy, but a nice accent. It only survives in my protected zone 6 spot though, so it's probably marginally hardy in a regular zone 5 spot. Dick Clark is in a regular zone 5 spot and is about 6 years old, but barely knee high. He puts out a few blooms a year and has come back every year, but I'm sure he'd be taller and a better bloomer in a warmer spot. Winnepeg Parks is a Canadian rose and should have no trouble with your winters and it would like Colorado. It isn't a very prolific rebloomer, and the one I planted last year in a less than ideal spot didn't come back. I suspect it will do fine in a normal spot. It has dark pink loose semidouble blooms, and it probably would take a couple of years before it bloomed much past the first spring flush. So my recommendation is Earth Song definitely, Winnepeg Parks probably but put it in a less prominent spot, Livin' Easy if you like orange, and Dick Clark and/or Dream Come True to push your zone limits a little and go for pizzazz. As you can tell from Dingo's response though, there's a lot of difference among zone 5 gardeners and you may need to see what does well for you by trial and error. Don't be afraid to experiment! Just be sure to bury the graft (the knobby bit where the canes start growing) at least 2 inches below the soil so that it protects the main growing part from the winter. Otherwise, the rose you want may die and you're left with the dark red rootstock "Dr. Huey" that's mostly a pain in the neck. Cynthia...See MoreWill Zephrine Drouhin Rose survive zone 5B
Comments (20)Sandy, we are surrounded by 75 foot pine, oak and maples. We had looked into solar since our house is perfectly oriented south but would have had to remove about 10-15 trees at $2500 a piece. Beyond our modest pocketbooks and worse it would leave no money for roses!! My shade gardens are mostly hydrangeas, especially an old lacecap that flowers in about 2 1/2 hours of early morning sun, Rhodis, astilbes, hostas, hostas, hostas, holly, a beautiful pink laurel bought this spring and other shade loving perennials. The sunniest areas are roses on top of roses(no three to four feet of space between) with fillers scattered throughout. My best roses for these areas are these DA's: Windermere, Queen of Sweden, Desdemona, Olivia, Heritage, Teasing Georgia, The Generous Gardener, Darcy Bussells, Boscabel and Gentle Hermione. Kordes include Summer Romance, Honeymoon, Cream and Lavender Veranda, Polar Express, Summer Memories and Zaide and a scattering of others including Julia Child, Knockouts and Bolero, which is far too tender here but I still love her. I have a Boscabel and Gentle Hermione in probably 4 hours of sun planted practically in sub soil and they're still putting out some buds even though they are extremely neglected so Austins tend to do well in not ideal conditions. It's definitely trial and error, seemingly more error than anything else but when you hit on the right rose that will flower in these conditions... heaven! Sharon...See MoreRelated Professionals
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