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Japanese rose plants - new website

Hi Rose friends,
I have noticed a couple new sellers on Etsy that are selling Japanese rose plants and found this website: https://kateroses.com/ . Has anyone bought from them? If yes, what's your experience?

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  • 9 days ago

    Has anyone purchased roses from Rose Explosion, seller of

    Asian roses? They also sell other roses

  • 9 days ago

    I would like to know how their roses Come into the United States in a timely manner since they are located in china. I read nothing on the site about This.

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  • 8 days ago

    As I mentioned on another thread, I asked Rose Explosion about their ability to get them from China to my door fast enough to have them arrive in good condition. I also asked them about the necessary paperwork for bringing plants into the country. They assured me that their shipper has all the necessary qualifications to accomplish this. What that means, I can’t say. I haven’t tried them, but they surely do tempt me with a few of their roses that are unavailable elsewhere.

  • 8 days ago
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    "Rose Explosion" is an online rose seller offering a wide range of rose varieties. However, there are mixed reviews about its legitimacy:

    1. Website and Offerings: The site showcases a significant variety of roses, many with detailed descriptions, which suggests a professional setup. However, certain inconsistencies in product pricing and presentation may raise questions about its reliability.
    2. Lack of Customer Reviews: There is limited independent feedback or verified reviews from customers on trustworthy platforms. This absence makes it harder to confirm whether past buyers were satisfied with their purchases.
    3. Potential Risk Indicators: Some customers on gardening forums have expressed concerns about the authenticity of similar rose-selling platforms. While there are no direct accusations about "Rose Explosion," caution is advised until more verified reviews are available.

    "Rose Explosion" appears to have mixed reviews from U.S. customers depending on the platform. Some reviewers praise the company for offering healthy, well-packaged rose plants that bloom beautifully, with reliable service and fast shipping. However, other buyers have reported dissatisfaction, particularly with issues like incorrect or unavailable stock substitutions without prior notification, which can affect the quality or variety of the roses received.

    For example, customers on platforms like Stamped.io and the seller's website highlight positive experiences with healthy, robust plants and excellent packaging

    The Flower FixRose_Explosion. On the other hand, some U.S. customers expressed dissatisfaction on forums and review sites, citing expectations not met in product quality or delivery timesThe Flower Fix.

    If you're considering purchasing from Rose Explosion, it may be worthwhile to review their customer service policies, such as substitution practices and guarantees, to ensure they align with your expectations.

    PS.

    1) My employer is blocking this website, but I was able to see it from home.

    2) I would recommend try with the a few roses and pay with PayPal.

    3) GRF is planning to introduce a lot of Japanese roses next season, I am deciding to stick with them.

  • 8 days ago
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    Hi, Elena,

    i perused Rose Explosion for the 1st time. It is a 30 year old business in China , shipping to US, which adds to my possible trust for their longevity. They say it takes about a week to ship. i have had a plant shipped over seas before-it was fine. I enjoyed seeing their cut-roses & shrub roses the best! They actually have many of my asian roses such as Royal Palace (they call her, Royal) , Princess Kishi, and a few of my favorites. Large selection. Wonder how much for shipping one single rose. They are -2 year old roses which are nice. . $69 is on the higher price end for their roses, but competitive.

    GmcRanch, Etsy, is more economical-prices, but Gmc has young roses. I dont mind the younger roses. Love lower prices!

    Rose Explosion looks good! It has Constance Rose, for ordering right now, if anyone’s interested? . I know someone wanted Constance? I have Constance rose & she is an ever blooming rose all season every day! She is blooming now with my temps 32F night/40s day! LOL! My most reliable vase rose!

    My Constance, season 2024

    (Varies cream-light pink-darker pink-peach)




    Enjoy!

    ORDERED TODAY:

    I have had my eye on Princess Kaori, lavendar rose for the season & today finally ordered it for spring-February from Ergonzi, Etsy. I have been in search for the perfect frilly cut-flower lavender rose. I have 3 different lavendar types nowI after adding now PK. I have ordered from Ergonzi before, nice roses, too . It”s maybe now easier for me to order from sellers I know well-good service/quality w/ Ergongzi! Flower Explosion has same P. Kaori rose, also-I am sure good, too! .

    Etsy photo

    Princess Kaori rose





    Love her lavendar frills!

    @Diane Brakefield

    & ROSIE FRIENDS

    Ergongzi, Etsy, is now selling Eisvogel if you want to order? You can message and ask to deliver in a specific spring month if you wish?



  • 8 days ago

    I have a friend who placed 2 successful orders from Rose Explosion, and just placed a third. I know that’s a small sample size, but she is a ’real gardener’ I know, not some sort of bot.

  • 8 days ago

    @BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)

    I really enjoyed Eisvogel first season in my garden! He bloomed a little, but super vigorous growth, beautiful blue-green VERY VERY disease resistant leaves! MOST diseases resistant of my Japanese roses!

    Did yours bloom well for its second year now? Any photos sometime of your Eisvogel?

  • 8 days ago

    Kitty because of your suggestion I purchased from Jessie and her roses were big. Thank you!


    I'm not a fan of Ergongzi. She does not read her emails and answers my questions with no coherence. She send me the most twisted rose I have ever ordered. Crossed at the bottom and top.

  • 8 days ago
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    SoCal,

    I am sorry about that rose. I hope you were able to prune & grow it better. I hope my new P Kaori comes in good form from Ergongzi. I have received other roses from her that were good! As long as it is healthy I can nurture it!

    Jessie’s Roses “JessiesRoseUSA” are THE BEST-BIGGEST I have ever received! Lovely & healthy. I ordered & received 2 very big tall thick caned roses from JessiesRoses: Constance & Jubilee Celebration! I would choose her as the best seller!

    Ny first choice sellers may be: GcmRanch , JessiesRoseUSA, & PlantRoses., Kates RoseGarden, ZephyrGardens, & Ergongzi. All good!

  • 8 days ago

    The previous picture was not the best. How do you suggest I prune?

  • 8 days ago
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    SoCal,,

    I’d probably take a photo & ask firca replacement. (She is a knarly tangled one. Oh Oh, My!.)

    Then I would probably snip one cane all the way to roots-snip it off, & keep only one large cane , but snip off it’s upper cane growing out from the cane which is growing in wrong direction. Snip it to only one cane you like the best to keep. Tye cane you keep may be 6 inches tall-but straight griwing in a good direction. New canes will grow from roots-keep only canes in future that are growing outward from roots in correct directions.


    I have cut rose canes alll the way to the ground at winter end, if winter damaged. They all come back-beautiful new canes! With your spring CA sun, they will sprout anew quickly and you can have a glorious rose.


    Just wait to prune until very early spring now.

    (CA do prune in fall normally, though, but I may wait until Feb to orune this one?) Or when do the roses start sprouting in spring for you? When do you think is the best time to prune her now? I’d prune her when I see first leaves sprout in spring just because winter is about here for now. I’d ket her keep her growth to be strong through winter.


    She will grow into a glorious rose next spring!


    Elena,

    All my Japanese/Euro Etsy roses came in bags with soil, like your above photo. I just pot asap, add more soil and they are fabulous when they get started growing! No worries! They are beautiful rare roses.

  • 8 days ago

    I left a review on Etsy and all she said was sorry. Never buying from her again.

  • 8 days ago

    I won't be supporting sellers bringing in roses grown in China. When pigs fly, and China supports our rose growers here in the US, I might reconsider. But then, someone's Tariff Policy may cause us to reconsider the climbing prices such tariffs would produce for Chinese roses. Another problem is the introduction of new pests and rose diseases, a topic for future discussion. And finally, there is a sameness and derivative look to all these roses. They certainly don't inspire me. Diane

  • 8 days ago

    SoCal,

    I totally unserstand. She shouod have offered to replace. Writeca message for replacement! Best Wishes! 🥀😊🥀🌺

  • 8 days ago

    I like My black thumb Nursery. She grows roses from her home South or North Carolina. It's her hobby. Just got country spirit Louise from her. I hope it's just as glorious as your Augusta Louise since it's the same breeder.

  • 8 days ago

    I am with Diane here....

    Posted and deleted a post stated that it looks to me that some soil is coming with their roses.

    Its a red line for me.


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    Elena from






  • 8 days ago
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    Kitty I tried but she would not even read my messages since her answers made no sense. Made me so frustrated that I even told her how she must be high or not care to talk. I even asked about future roses I wanted from her.

  • 8 days ago
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    SoCal,

    I have seen the asian‘s English communication skills are limited. Wow! Not good!

    You can ckick on the “Help with order” button, on that rose receipt, & click on refund, click on damaged.

    Etsy will see she refunds.



  • 8 days ago
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    I've been shopping with Etsy since 2015. They don't really care. It's a business. Purchased a $2500 earring. Wore it one day and the earring feel off because the latch was defected. Contacted the seller and Etsy. They did nothing. I only keep shopping with them because I like artisanal stuff but I have better customer service on eBay than Etsy.

  • 8 days ago

    Kitty, generally, it’s illegal or highly restricted to bring soil into the U.S. I’m not sure this company is following all regulations. Etsy sellers are growing roses in native soil after somehow bringing the roses into the U.S.

  • 8 days ago

    Ben, could you ask Tom Carruth why his fabulous pink rose, My Hero, is only sold in Australia and South Africa? I would love to grow this rose. And thank you. Diane

  • 7 days ago
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    Elena,

    i don’t know presently, not for me to say; however, I doubt she could mail soil/plants unless proving shipping regulations. And she has been in business for 30 years which may be difficult for anyone to avoid following regulations all those years. mailing soil into the US requires a permit or USDA soil approved treatment. Plants have import tequirements, too. Anyway, I couid not judge & I havn’t done busness with her as I found it easy to shop with Etsy & US vendors presently.

    SoCal,

    I am sorry you have had problems with a couple Etsy sellers. Some businesses are fabulous! Some are not. My daughter sold quality crochet items on Etsy-she was a wonderful seller-very high quality and service! . I have purchased hand made linen, china, and lits of plants on Etsy. I had a couple poor sellers. However However, I had many many fine Etsy sellers maje me beautiful things, a crocheted table cloth, lots of china, and all my plants arrived healthy except once out if 30+ purchases. Many of my Etsy sellers send cards & notes and wrap items beautifully for me.


    Anyway, I hope you have better service in the future.

  • 7 days ago
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    Kitty, I am not arguing, just saying. I am crossing the border regularly and know very well, that soil is absolutely No-no.

    Regulations for Importing Soil from China

    1. Prohibited Without a Permit:
    • The USDA generally prohibits the import of soil from China without obtaining a special permit. Soil from high-risk areas like China requires stringent oversight due to potential contamination risks.
    1. Permit Application:
    • Apply for a USDA Plant Protection and Quarantine (PPQ) permit using the APHIS ePermits system or via paper application (Form PPQ 525).
    • Specify that the soil is from China and include details about its composition, intended use, and destination.
    1. Sterilization Requirement:
    • Soil may need to be sterilized or treated to eliminate potential pests or pathogens. Ensure that you document sterilization processes if done before shipping.
    1. Inspection at Port of Entry:
    • All shipments will be inspected at a USDA-approved inspection station upon arrival. Soil from China is subject to enhanced scrutiny.
    1. Approved Packaging and Labeling:
    • Package the soil securely in sealed containers to prevent spillage.
    • Clearly label the package with the contents and include the USDA permit number.



    PS. If someone has ordered from them, please share how your roses came in term of all this permits.

  • 7 days ago

    I doubt the tariffs will stop them. They will just go up 25% and they will pass that cost on to the customers. So the roses will be closer to $100 ea or whatever they can get away with lol.

  • 7 days ago
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    I know it’s not fair to mention roses that aren’t available for now, but I’m looking forward to getting Princess Maya, Princess Hitomi, Tsumugi, Princess Kishi, Miyabi Brown, and Miyabi this spring. Miyabi is a must-have!



  • 7 days ago

    The tariffs aren't paid by the seller but by the importers. i wish the power that be could understand that. We will pay the tariffs in increased costs, not the overseas sellers. That's how tariffs work. Fun. Diane

  • 7 days ago

    Kitty kitty, it says they have been in business for 30 years but doesn't specify that they've been sending roses to the US for that time. It doesn't talk about their import Licensing at all....

  • 7 days ago


    Thank you for all your imput. It is easier to shop in the US, at least for me.


    Elena,

    Miyabi is wonderful! I have her! She is a vigorous growing bush, lovely blue-green leaves, and gorgeous big blooms aplenty! I have Princess Kishi, too too-she is usually a medium red lovely bouquet bloom-love her bloom shape-she can darken to a wine sometimes if cool weather. Tge rest if your order looks fabulous! Sooo many beautifies to enjoy!

  • 7 days ago
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    Kitty, this will be my second Miyabi, grafted. The first one I have is on its own roots, which I also got from Etsy. I’m planning to do something similar to what you’ve done recently—replacing less vigorous roses with new ones! 😊

  • 7 days ago
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    Elena,

    My Miyabi just finished second season doing excellent! She was own- root planted Aug 2023 a year ago so she only had a couole months the 1 st season. However this secind seasin she was 5 ft tall, 3 ft wide, lots if blooms-fabulous! As an own-root with my cold winters I am very happy with her.-super vigorous! However, if you prefer grafted, that sounds good, too! I actually prefer own-roots with my cold winter weather. However, Palatine large grafted do well for me, too!


    I am actually, removing just some roses

    uneeded to get my numbers down next spring. I had removed some rises that were disease prone in the past and replaced with better ones. And then I enjoy adding a few new speciality Euro/Japanese roses occassionally now.

  • 6 days ago

    I have Princess Hitomi and Tsumugi and they always have blooms on them. They also last a week in the vase and are stunning. Here’s Tsumugi:



    Princess Hitomi cut yesterday, with a white O’hara, Autumn Rouge, and Beatrice :




  • 6 days ago

    SD Shine, thank you for sharing! Your roses look amazing! what zone you are in?

  • 6 days ago

    @elenazone6 Thank you! I’m in 10a, Bay Area CA.

  • 6 days ago

    SD shine, gorgeous! Where did you purchase yours from?

  • 6 days ago

    @Z10Socal from a friend in San Jose, she’s a hobby grower and props everything herself.

  • 6 days ago
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    @SD Shine

    Lovely bouquet of unique roses! I es es specially love your Beatrice & Autumn Rouge! I ordered Autumn Rouge a year ago,, but it wasn’t healthy & didn’t grow. Beatrice is so beautiful, golden, , similar to Effie, but Beatrice is a more frilly rose. Do you have any more photos of Autumn Rouge and Beatrice? Amazing roses!

    Ohhhhhhh! I decided to try another Autumn Rouge, but just ordered it from JessiesRoseUSA, Etsy. She’s having a sale at $50 plus $10 ship! And her roses are the biggest own roots I ever bought! I am sure it will be great this time!

    I looked at more photos of Autumn Rouge and found it looks much like my Pas de Deux, but Autumn Rouge turns even more purple, and sometimes wine, too ! Love to see those colors in fall. Also, I love variety….. little different than Pas de Deux, both roses are unique & wonderful!

    Have you seen these colors in your Autumn Rouge, yet? Share photos?

    ORDERED TODAY:

    Autumn Rouge

    from JessiesRoseUSA, Etsy, 4” blooms

    (Etsy photos)











    AUTUMN ROUGE has more frilly blooms and may be more purple. PAS DE DEUX has longer buds, tighter packed petals that bloom in a very perfect cup shape. They both have buds in globe shapes.

  • 6 days ago
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    Well, you folks can do what you like, but I'm so much in "User"'s camp-and that of seasiderooftop's. I don't trust the photos ; I always go to HMF and look at all the photos shown , and if they are not from various gardeners that give me a real idea of what a rose will actually look like most of the time in a real garden, I give it a miss. There's this new aesthetic among these new rose vendors that seems to me highly unscrupulous- to copy the style of photos used by David Austin Roses to publicize the David Austin line of CUT ROSES-aka, florist roses, bred to be cut for bouquets. It's always the same sort of image that is being used-a bouquet of enormous ,tightly grouped flowers stuffed together,with a tiny female figure in the background, so it reads like it's a woman holding a real bouquet. Now Tantau does do that "bouquet" carp, too, but as long as one knows it's a fake, it's not so bad,and they (Tantau-and they do actually breed roses themselves) have been around for quite a while. (Barni is sort of the opposite-real breeders--they obviously do not try to seduce with their photos, lol! makes me love 'em!)

    However it does trouble me that naive people may fall for this fashionable type of picture,and these new "mauve-and-beige" companies do seem to be leaning heavily on the seduction element. It's sort of like Kim Kardashian or something...a total fake.

    BUT... I'm really, really happy to read that some attention is now being paid to the serious aspects behind unruly rose commerce, and that this aspect is being taken into consideration by everyone. No, soil should NOT be imported from China,for example...,lol... THINK BEFORE YOU BUY

  • 6 days ago

    SD Shine if she ever wants to sale to people on these forums please let me know. I bought some from a hobby propagator in South Carolina. I'm in San Diego so would rather purchase from the west coast too =)

  • 6 days ago
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    @KittyNYz6 it really is a gorgeous rose, and the scent is incredible, fruity with strong citrus. I have a baby plant, about 1-1.5 yrs old and have already noticed its lack of vigor relative to its neighbors (Tess and Darcey). It’s in a prime full-sun spot right now in a pot, so I’ll give it another year before deciding whether it gets to graduate to in-ground. Deer-protected space is limited in my yard.

    @bart bart your comment reminds me of the home decor meme ’sad beige’ 😂. I have to admit though, I do love those muted neutral colors, I’ve always have. My koko loko is one of my favorites and I’m super excited for the Distant Drums I have ordered from Regan.

    @Z10Socal I’ll ask her and connect with you via PM.

    Edited to add these for @KittyNYz6, zero edit taken by an iphone 12 mini:





    I’ve got more buds on the bush and will send you more photos if they open. I’ve been having a lot of blooms rot on the bushes or bullnose due to the temp drops at night and a lot of rain.

  • 6 days ago

    My photos are never tampered with and I wouldn't know how to do it if I had the software. I do agree that a whole lot of photos from these sellers have a sameness and do look kind of fake. Diane

  • 6 days ago
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    SD Shine,

    I see your beautiful Autumn Rouge bud! bud! In the first year I see many of these own root roses are tiny as most own-roots of my mine tend to be. I do realize Darcy is a robust rose, akways growing & blooming in my garden, better than most own-roots in performing.

    Probably I will see all those beautiful colors come out eventually in Autumn Rouge as she matures.

    !

    I have thoroughly enjoyed all the blooms I have received on my 20 roses from Etsy so far in last 2 years. After 1-2 years of new growth I see similar colors, same shape, form as the photos I saw on the website. They are all beautiful roses.. I really dont see a need to ”photo shop them,” because those roses are soooooo beautiful in color, my camera comes out with similar colors/ect.

    If I had several bushes of one variety then I could have those big bouquet photos, too. Anyway, it’s nice to see the potential of them grouped in a bouquet.


    A rose is a rose, always beautiful to me-as a single bloom or in a bouquet.


    Btw, I have had a bouquet of Constance, tons of blooms! And she was even more beautiful than all the Etsy photos I saw!!! If you’d like to see my Constance bouquet roses I can post?


    Often these roses are even more beautiful than the photos on the internet! And of course more precious and beautiful in person!


    in addition, the roses are most beautiful when nirtured well with good soil, watering and fertilizers. .

    Enjoy!

  • 6 days ago

    Please post the photo kitty!😉😀

  • 6 days ago

    @KittyNYz6 you tease us! Photo please ☺️. I agree with you though re: growing roses. I also love to see the variation over the season on the same plant, I think it’s fascinating. I dabble in florist roses only because I love cutting what I grow and bringing them into the house and thus value vase-life a lot. I grow a lot of traditional roses too and love them equally, if not more just due to their overall robustness and vigor. My Angel Face and Koko Loko are still covered in blooms, as is my firefighter and Munstead Wood.

  • 6 days ago
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    Hi, Rosie Friends…..

    Thank you about my Constance bouquet! I posted it for you on my new thread today……


    I just started a new thread…. please check it out if you wish to see photos of Japanese/Euro roses in my garden & Constance Bouquet A And you may share your lovely Japanese/Euro photos, too!


    NEW THREAD: :

    “ My Japanese/European Rose Garden.’

    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/6474889/my-japanese-european-rose-garden

    This is one bloom from my Constance rose bush….. to see Constance bpuquet & other of my roses check out ny new thread…….

    Constance


  • 5 days ago

    Shine, it was someone else who made up that epithet for these new sites,not me. It's like what we used to call "Hecht Company colours" in my youth-not to criticize a particular colour, but more the over-all "aesthetic" that the sellers are trying to present-a sort of exclusive attitude that I find repellant.

    Diane, I never meant to imply that I suspected your photos of being photoshopped,and I don't think they are. Your credibility is enhanced , too, by the fact that you show whole-plant pictures,obviously actually growing in your garden. To illustrate my point, let's take the case of "Vesalius". This plant produced nice big bunches of flowers, and if I were to have taken a close-up of one of the best ones, just looking down into it's "face", people would probably say "wow, what a beauty". BUT the reality of the plant was far from pleasing. It was extremely stiff and upright, so all you'd see of the flowers was their ho-hum white profiles. To see the lavender centers, you had to get on top of the rose and look down. What's more, much of the time the flowers presented no lavender at all-they were just white, with a kind of muddy dot of stamens in the middle. It fell victim to the heat of summer; I tried to save it thinking "well, MAYBE if I figured out a spot where I'd natrally be looking down on it, and MAYBE once it got older it would be more constant in colour...etc, etc, etc. I put it in a pot, but it did me a favour and just died. For me, in order to be desirable,a rose has to be consistently beautiful on the plant, and the plant has to be attractive, too. James Galway has the vice of being very stiff,too, but the flowers are beautiful-consistently so-even the foliage is beautiful and perfect, and it's vigour and willingness to grow are enchanting. I planted my younger own-root one in one of those few places in my garden -below the road, at the bottom of a sharp slope-where I will hopefully be able to enjoy the flowers much more than I can enjoy those of my older one . In other words, not "just a pretty face when it's a good day". Your roses are CLEARLY the real thing!

  • 5 days ago

    Thank you Bart. I never thought you had doubted my photos. I was just making a statement to try to reassure people that I am incapable-ha- of primping photos. Diane

  • 4 days ago
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    When considering Japanese and other rare roses in the U.S., I always start my research on YouTube. It’s invaluable for seeing real-life examples of roses, beyond their most flattering catalog photos. Afterward, I head to https://www.rosebook.ru which is another fantastic resource for detailed rose information.

    I also evaluate how popular a rose is in Eastern Europe. It’s tough to admit, but they are way ahead of us in terms of availability, variety, and pricing. Their market often serves as a benchmark for roses that are worth the investment.

    As for Japanese roses, they are intentionally bred for small gardens, making them a perfect fit for my needs. While they might grow larger in California’s climate, they should stay true to size in my Midwest garden. Additionally, most Japanese roses boast exceptional vase life.

  • 4 days ago

    I wish the rose book Had a place To read it in English.

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    Vaporvac, you have to go to Chrom browser and copy the link. The pop up window will show up asking if you want to translate, hit Yes and voila!




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    Thank you so much! I've been goofing around with my settings trying to find that. I'm able to get it on other sides but that's cause they had a pull down for it I'll try that now. Now I see the problem. I used to use my laptop But now I'm mainly on my kindle fire. That uses silk browser and it doesn't have language as an option apparently. Time for further investigation.

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