Can we plant winter rye now and add grass seed in the spring?
Nobasil (z4 New England)
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Comments (9)We grow barley, a cousin of wheat, and the process is quite similar although we only plant in the spring and not fall as with winter wheat. The processes people use are really quite variable and much depends on what works or is customary in your area along with environmental factors. We plant barley at a rate of approximately 1/4 lb. per 100sq. ft. on irrigated ground. For dryland areas, planting rates are often a bit lighter. I think wheat is often planted a little heavier as it doesn't usually stool out the way barley does. It is planted in rows about 9" apart, though some will plant closer or wider, and sometimes grains are planted broadcast mixed with fertilizer, then harrowed in. We typically plant barley between 1 and 2 inches deep, whatever it takes to get down to moisture so it will germinate. You would be located in a wet climate so going deep would not be necessary, and if the ground is dry near the surface you could always water with a hose, so could just broadcast then stir in with a good garden rake so the seed is covered. Planting shallow would help it get going quicker so it could develop before cold weather sets in. You are probably about at the right time to plant, winter wheat has fewer problems if the soil has cooled down from the summer warmth, although you still want the soil warm enough for the wheat to establish. Over the winter, the wheat will go pretty much dormant, but winter kill can be a problem if the winter is dry and cold without snow cover. To avoid this, sprinkle through the winter if the ground dries out a couple inches down. Also, if you get a period of cold weather where it goes well below 0, maybe -20 or so and there is no snow cover, then some protection would be beneficial through that period. All I've ever seen of annual rye is that it is often planted in the lawns in Arizona in fall as it produces a nice green lawn through the winter when the bermuda grass is dormant. Good luck!...See MoreHow to kill ugly lawn w Bermuda & prepare for winter Rye grass
Comments (3)I donÂt have enough strength in me to hire a different company  I feel bad leaving these guys without a job. Yes, IÂm that weak... Well grow some brass ones, because you are being taken advantage of. Your contractor is use to getting told to take a hike. You will being both of yourselves a favor, fire him NOW. The problem is not your variety of Bermuda grass, keep the same practices you use now, and whatever variety of Bermuda you use will fail. Fire your contractor NOW, he is killing your grass with his advice and practice. Otherwise continue dump money in a bottomless pit. Ok enough of the soapbox stuff. What is giving you problems is watering schedule, fertilizer, and mowing Watering: You are over watering the grass, and is the source of your fungus and weed problems period. You cannot depend on anyone, the grass will tel you when it is time, You have to learn when by observation period. No one can be trusted. GOT IT? To determine if it needs watered is as simple as when you wake up, or go to bed each night. Go out and walk around and look at the grass. When you walk look back where you walked. Do your footsteps disappear quickly, or do your footprints remain? If it springs back means it is hydrated and OK. If your footprints remains it needs water. But the best method is a color change from deep green to a slightly blueish or graying color change. When Bermuda or really any grass is properly hydrated, the leafs of the grass open fully to expose the upper surface to sunlight and looks vivid dark green. However when it dries out it has a built in defense mechanism. The leaf will curl up to minimize its exposure to sunlight to conserve evaporation losses. This exposes the underside of the leaf which is a different color. For Bermuda grass that is a blueish or grayish color telling you to water. Sorry to be ruff on you but you need a wake up call, and learn to take care of the watering yourself. As for fertilizing and mowing, let's stop here until you respond with questions....See Morewinter garden seeds to plant now
Comments (2)I think its still to early for most winter stuff. I planted celery, heat tolerant lettuce, and brussels sprouts. Will plant carrots soon. I am sure we'll have another heat wave or too yet, and It'll be over 100 again here....See MoreNeed advice on timing to plant annual rye grass on bank
Comments (4)Kurchian, The advice from your local nursery was to plant Annual rye grass with some wildflower seed. The annual rye seed would only grow this year and would not return or re-seed for next year in your zone. This is a quick temporary fix for your bank. To be clear there are different types of rye grass seed, perennial, winter, annual, etc and annual rye grass seed will not return next year or re-seed but will grow quickly with adequate water and sun and could provide a grassy area for this midsummer though fall . I suspect the recommendation for a hydro mat was due to your comment that the area is difficult to water. You might estimate the cost of the mat for your square footage as I suspect it could be pretty costly. What is your long term goal for this area?...See Moredchall_san_antonio
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