This definitely isn’t Eglantyne….
Any ideas on who you think it might be? I just sent these same pictures to David Austin
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last yearIf it helps anyone in their determination, I just took apart the bloom and it had 90 petals but some were still folded over in the center so that count could go a little higher.
Here it was this morning before the murder
And still no scent to speak of
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last yearlast modified: last yearI grew Darcy Busell before, and oursteelers 8B PNW's pics. look most like Darcy (glossy foliage, tiny brown prickles that are spaced apart, plus dark-red blooms). Darcy doesn't have much scent, and can have more than 80 petals if enough calcium.
I have L.D. Braithwaite as 2nd year own-root: BRIGHT RED COLOR (similar to Tess), but more greenish prickles and twice more vigorous than Tess.
My Tess as 5th-year own-root have prickles just like what librarian posted, plus bright red blooms, see below Tess:
Below are VERY DENSE prickles on 5 feet octopus canes of L.D. Braithwaite (bright red blooms), blooms open with lesser myrrh scent than Tess, then scent is gone completely.
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last yearlast modified: last yearI am not sure if your mystery rose is Darcey Bussell, but I have her and here are leaf and stem shots taken a few moments ago. She only has this one bud right now. The pictures of your bloom are very similar to her blooms with the stamens in the center peaking out a little when she fully opens. Her fragrance ranges from completely non existent to a light old rose honey.
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last yearlast modified: last yearDarcey Bussell is a mannerly shrub, light on thorns. I found a few pictures from last April.
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last yearI just found DB pics from August of 2020, which show her classic stamen-reveal look. When the weather is hot she has less petals and shows off her stamens more. Maggie is the pink rose with her
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last yearlast modified: last yearVaporvac It's ok for Freedom Gardens to propagate Summer Song ?
I looked up Peter Schneider's website; he discourages people in the North from ordering his bands. I guess it's too big a gamble to take , trying to get a new baby rose in Fall through winter in N Idaho. It was a momentary spark of hope, I'm foiled again.
A wet mantis climbed out of the flowers I was watering. I captured him and put him on Madame Anisette - one of the bonuses of hand watering.
Evening news; He's still here.
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last yearlast modified: last yearRight you are about HER head Diane. A big cat face spider has constructed a long web stretching down from the roof , attached to a bamboo rose support right by the praying mantis that moved in. There may be a battle.
I think this might be who Cat Face was winding up to have for dinner last night.
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last yearFrom the color, few prickles, and shape of the leaves (though not glossy), I submit Wm. Shakespeare 2000.
I grow Eglantyne, and mine is also spindly, sparse and floppy. The bush wants to be tall, but can't support itself, yet not really a climber. The blooms, however, are exquisite and would smell divine in your more humid climate. If I had a do-over, I would give her something to sprawl on. A low wall or boulder would be perfect.
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