I can't exist without them, although years ago I thought they were worthless! I had always figured that it made no sense for me to listen to a book since I'm a pretty fast reader, and it would waste my time. (And thank goodness it's one of the few things that I haven't gotten considerably slower at!) But then i realised that I could go for power walks or prune bushes, weed, bake cookies, dust and run errands while reading! Or rather listening to a book. It's been wonderful. The biggest problem now is that BOT are going the way of vinyl. And books on CD are a pain, because you can't save your place, going between house and car or portable player. And they SKIP! So after much help from everyone here I'm going to be getting an MP# player to down load audio books from the library. Haven't gotten the nerve to actually do it, since that means having to learn a new device but I will do it soon. Here is a link that might be useful: Best player for audio books

Wow! Im gonna have a look. I prob won't buy too many this year because we are in the middle of moving right now. If I can get organized in time for spring then maybe I will lol. Our new place has Zer○ flower beds and that is just such a huge task. Of course, last year I said I wouldnt buy any roses, then bought more than ever. Ok update: I just saw Silas is baby bubblegum pink has a Button Eye!! ♡♡ Why do they do this to me? lol Thank goodness its out of stock. I did get on the wait list though lol!

@strawchicago z5 That is Double Easy Orange from J&P. New in my garden this spring. Thank you so much.

The real test of high humidity is enclosed rooting bin with constant wet leaves for 2+ months. Re-post from the other threads on Evelyn and older Austins: Below is what I notice in my garden of 150+ fragrant own root roses: 1) Own roots that can take high humidity with healthy leaves in my rooting bin, even with constant condensation (water) on leaves & stems. These can take extreme humidity yet have 100% healthy leaves in heavy clay, if the soil is NOT acidic. Evelyn, W.S. 2000, Mary Magdalene, Christopher Marlowe, Pat Austin, Queen of Sweden, James Galway, Dee-lish, the Dark Lady, Spirit of Freedom, Tchaikovsky, Purple Lodge, Annie L. McDowell. 2) Own roots with healthy leaves with humidity, IF the drainage is fast, plus liming on top to neutralize acidic rain: Abraham Darby, Crown princess Magareta, Tess of d'Ubervilles, A Shopshire Lad, Radio times, Well Being, Augusta Luis, Sonia Rykiel, Yves Piaget child, Lavender Crush, Annie L. McDowell. 3) Own roots that blackspots with high humidity despite fast draining or liming, and need constant potassium fertilizer to stay healthy: Golden Celebration, Carding Mill, the Squire, Gertrude Jekyll, St. Cecilia, Firefighter, Comte de Chambord. 4) Own roots with THICK LEAVES which rabbits don't eat: Evelyn leaves are thicker than Abe. Tchaikosky leaves are thick like Augusta Luis, Christopher Malowe leaves are thick like James Galway and Purple Lodge. Crown Princess Mag, Strike it Rich and About Face have thicker leaves than Cading Mill. Never see blackspots on Chris, Evelyn, Tchaikosky nor James Galway. 5) Own roots with THIN LEAVES which rabbits devour: Abe. Darby, Munstead Wood, W.S. 2000, Sonia Rykiel, Well Being Golden Cel., Firefighter, Boscobel, Comte de Chambord and Annie L. McDowell. The above are my observation with own-roots in my garden plus rootings in humid bins of Evelyn, Dee-lish, W.S. 2000, Spirit of Freedom, Christopher Marlowe, The Dark Lady, The Squire, Augusta Luis, James Galway, Mary Magdalene, Abraham Darby, Sonia Rykiel, Dee-lish, Golden Celebration, Gertrude Jekyll, Radio Times, Pat Austin, Well Being, Tchaikovsky, Crown Princess Mag., Purple Lodge, thornless Yves Piaget child, Annie L. McDowell. *** Princess Anne was healthy in its younger years, but as its roots mature in its 5th-year, it's prone to blackspots in my poor drainage clay. Some fast-maturing Austins have chunky & woody root that rot fast in standing acidic rain water like Princess Anne. Some own-root starts out as healthy cluster roots, then matures to chunky & woody (like Dr.Huey-rootstock) and become more Blackspot-prone in later years like Princess Anne. Other Austins like W.S. 2000 have cluster-root (similar to multiflora) that does not rot in acidic rain, thus zero blackspots even as 12th-year-own-root. Leaves of W.S. 2000 and Evelyn have NO blackspots in high humidity rooting bin. Evelyn can take high rain and poor drainage clay better than Abraham Darby (best bloomer for hot & dry and alkaline climate). Abe. Darby & Sonia Rykiel & Well-Being need a higher pH and all 3 bloom well with my alkaline tap water at pH 9, thus best for hot & dry climate. Below are pics. of W.S. 2000 being healthy, it's right next to the rainspout dumping tons of acidic rain at pH 4.5, note the pale leaves: Below pic. of Evely was taken July 24, after week-long rain, I never see blackspots on it in its 12 years as own-root, if biochar at pH 8.6 is given before a rainy month. Note Evelyn's paler leaves than Abe. Darby: Below is my 1st Abraham Darby healthy and glossy leaves, in a fast drainage spot. Pic. taken 11/5/22 after week-long fall rain. My 2nd Abraham Darby in slow drainage clay lost all leaves from blackspots, so fast drainage is crucial for health. Digging down to 2 feet, then pouring a 3 gallon bucket of water is my test for potential blackspots. If water doesn't drain fast, then roses will blackspot during acidic rain, with more woody roots like Abe. Darby. Woody roots like Abe or Dr.Huey-rootstock produce more acid than cluster root like W.S. 2000 or multiflora-rootstock.