Comments on kitchen design (function not form...yet)
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Comments (14)Will there be too much space in the middle? Yes, IMO. Between DW and cook top counter, I estimate that you'll have 91". That's 7.5' feet of floor with no purpose. Is there room to add a small island No. Even at the minimum aisle width of 36" (and NKBA recommends 42" for one-cook kitchens), you'd have room for a 9" island. Definitely not functional. You could do a rolling island but given the limited space and the angled peninsula, I think the island would be in the way much of the time. Frankly, I agree with others. The original plan with an island is more functional than what you've come up with. However, we don't know anything about you, how you cook, how many cooks there are, how many people in your household, whether you entertain and how often, etc. All these factors may be behind your design direction. Please tell us what spurred your vision. Maybe we can help you figure out a way to get there with a plan that uses the space better. Speaking of entertaining, how large is your DR table? Your room is wide enough to accommodate a 42" wide table with 45" clearance around it, which is good. NKBA recommends 44" minimum to provide room for others to walk behind diners. However, you're tight on length. Even if you shrunk the clearance at the head and foot of the table to 36" (squeeze behind space), your DR can still only accommodate a 62" long table. Yes, your room opens into the foyer but the arch doesn't look generous enough to ease the tight squeeze. With a little redesign of your master bath/closet area, you can steal 2-3' for the DR, allowing you a to accommodate a 68" to 80" table. I have an idea for that area. Would you like to see it? (Did you mean to design the toilet area to be larger than the shower or is that just a trick of the eye? Also, a 5' wide closet is not wide enough to have hanging space on both sides. You need about 24" depth so two sides of hanging space leaves you with only 1' between the clothes.)...See MoreComment on Draft Kitchen Design
Comments (10)Pence and others, yes, the DW needs to be somewhat removed from the main sink. I don't have the ability to manipulate that part of the image but have made a note to myself on my working hard copy, thanks. Holligator, thanks for the ideas about the pantry. I've wondered about a warming drawer, but I must confess that I am really dubious about an essentially $1K expediture when I'm going to have at least one large gas oven (one large, one small if I go with the 48" range), and at least one wall-mounted electric oven (the Miele Speed Oven is proving to be something of an expensive hard sell in itself). :-) If any of you think a warming drawer is important even if you have a few ovens at hand, please say so. I don't want to have to revisit this design later. It's slightly annoying to pay roughly $1K for a little icemaker, too, but since we do entertain, it makes good sense to have one in the pantry, so we'll bite that bullet. I saw a photo yesterday (naturally, i forgot to clip it) of a pull-out that could go under the island, holding two tall kitchen wastebaskets side-by-side - quite smart, I thought. rhome, you're right - I was thinking of the axiom that says you should have landing space on either side of big things, but that's not much, so if I were going to have anything on the north wall, it would be on the east end of it. As it turns out, I think it will just be cabinets. The family room is to the NW (right top) of the kitchen. I'll post a separate thread below with a link to an extract of the floorplan showing that. The eastern-most door of the kitchen is across the hall from the French doors to our bedroom. I think the fridge probably works best closer to the hallway than back in the SE corner, since anyone who wants to raid it doesn't have to traipse into the cooking/work areas to get to it. And I like the idea of putting the ovens where the fridge formerly was in the SE corner, closer to the pantry, the long counter on the south side of the kitchen, and the dining room. bmore, I think the scullery idea is intriguing (I had considered a second DW in the Butler's Pantry but not certain DW would want to give up the drawer/cupboard space). I'm not getting the "cramped" observation, but would like to see how the scullery would open things up. Would you please elaborate (email me if you like)? Thank you all! Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreNeed help trying to design a FUNCTIONAL laundry room!
Comments (24)Here are my suggestions: Completely separate the laundry from the office area. No adjoining counters. You can fold clothes as you take them out of the dryer. I would get a huge deep sink and skip the dog bath. My fabricator made a cover for my sink that matches the corian countertops. So it's a handy place when not in use. Put the washer beside the dryer. I wouldn't put in a built-in trash cabinet if this room doesn't generate a lot of garbage. Why not put a 12" base cabinet there that can store supplies and the cabinet doors would face the hallway that leads into the room. Do you need a place for an extra fridge or a chest freezer? Is this house already built?...See MoreNew kitchen design. Comments?
Comments (25)I'll check out the design dilemma too. Here's a specific question: the range hood is off centre. If I centre it with the island and counter it overlaps with the right hand window (#1). Even if it was smaller so it didn't overlap, there's something that offends me about this placement when you don't just look at the island, but consider the whole room. If on the other hand I centre it between the edges of the windows (#2), well yesterday I hated it, but today I think it looks fine. The last (#3) is where I thought it looked right yesterday, but there's no rhyme or reason to that one, just placed where it look(ed) right. Today I prefer centred between the windows, although only #1 is offensive. Which do you think looks best? Another: These are built off 2d that I actually signed off on. It wasn't until I built them in sketchup that I realized something was off. Things were logically placed, and certainly functional from a cooking perspective. You could see the logic on the 2d and how things lined up, but in 3d the appliances looked like they were having a party and the island wasn't invited. They were that way because I asked for a large window, and large was interpreted as wide and that forced everything to make way. And the island was too big for the room. I reinterpreted it as tall after much effort to re-balance things, then shortened up the island and centred it with the counter. This is my real question: this design is not very symmetric. It has some symmetry, but also much asymmetry. Is it offensively off balance? And if so, what is that strikes you as out of place?...See Morestephclarke311
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