I love it the way it is. Your range/hood/upper section is a symmetrical unit. Your sink and beautiful large window form a symettrical unit. And your three glass cabinets form another unified block. I don't think having the window centered along the cabinet bank is important. You have a strong and functional design.

What I would change:

1) Remove the barstools and counter overhang on the kitchen side. You won't be able to use the stools while the dishwasher is open, and they block access to cabinet storage.

2) Do the uppers on each side of the range have sufficient side clearance? Hard to tell from a picture with no dimensions, but it looks like they come right up to the edge of your range. If you have a gas range than your hood should be wider for adequate venting, and your cabinets should be narrower to provide proper clearance.

Perfect symmetry is far overrated. Eliminate the overhang/stools on the prep side of the peninsula. Will never work. At all.

Leave the hood and venting alone. Honestly? rare is the kitchen that has a hood larger than the width of the range. Believe it. A non issue as long as you aren't running a stir fry kitchen: )

You think the plans were sent somewhere. Sorry but I have no context as to the rest of the kitchen . I have no clue where you plan to store pots and pans . No stools in the work area ever . Post the whole plan but to be honest a bit late in the game.

Is it too late to swap some of those base cabinets for drawers? Much better storage. (hope I we are not making your analysis paralysis worse!)

And don't worry, removing chairs is easy; you will soon figure out yourself why they don't work on the prep side of the peninsula :)

It looks fine but I honestly don’t understand the dining area- the cabinet under it will be useless and it won’t be a comfortable spot to sit- minimally skip the cabinet and get a metal frame so you actually have leg space.

Hey guys, thanks for all the comments! My only real "concern" was trying to center the window more, but I think that's essentially impossible becuase the range section requires two equal size cabs to flank it (and I chose a 36 range). But I feel a lot better now, and I've aleady given this a lot of thought.

Here is a pic of the other side of the window wall. It has the fridge, double pull out pantries, and a section that has a speed oven/microwave combo with cabinets on top and drawers on bottom. Will likely use the bottom two drawers for most of my pots and pans.

So the dining area - that peninsula connects to my sunken sunroom. On the right of the kitchen (not pictured) is my actual dining room, but I wanted to keep this as an "eat-in" kitchen. My neighbor did something similar (we have the same house), and having the 2 chairs on each side worked well (though he made the cabinets at the peninsula open on the other side, which I didn't like and am not doing here). I personally really wanted two chairs on the kitchen side because then I get to look into the sunrooom, watch tv, etc. I will store things that I don't use often near those stools, so that won't be an issue to me at all. And the dishwasher is far away enough where, even if the door were open, someoen could back up and not hit it. But, if I were entertaining, I'd just leave the dishes in the sink until they left anyway.

My current kitchen acutally has all four chairs in the kitchen, and that "peninsula" is an actual table that's more "in" the kitchen. So, those two chairs are even more in the prep area now, but it actually doesn't bother me. I'm pushing it out so it can be a "bar" with the sunken sunroom, and be more of a peninsula than an actual table. Overall I'm actually gaining storage space (only have a single pantry now and fewer drawers thatn I will have), so I don't mind the two shallow cabinets there.

And for the base cabinets - I believe they all come with two levels of pull-outs, so I think that's pretty good for storage (someone said maybe swap for some extra drawers - with the drawers on the other side with the fridge, I think I have a good amount of drawers).

It's not about "enough" drawers though. The issue is that drawers are much more convenient and useful than cabinets with shelves or rollouts. But hey, our mothers and grandmothers made do with cabinets. You can too. Your kitchen will be beautiful.

Fair enough. Thanks mcarroll! The only two areas that might be able to be converted to drawers are other side of range (but those would be small) or right near the peninsula. Because the sink you cant of course and next to sink is double 35 quart garbage. Might be too late now, but with wider drawers on other side, I think overall I’m ok.

To add - I am NOT a huge entertainer or cook. I am looking to step up my cooknig game, though. I'm a late 30's bachelor who bought his first house last year. I do have a 20x40 in-ground pool in my yard, so I entertain more in the summer :)

This kitchen project is my first HUGE project, and since I'm still fairly new to houses, I'm just trying to get it "right." I'm pretty confident overall I'm doing it "right" and being true to what I personally want. I can maybe look into a few more drawers, but I think the drawers beneath the oven on the fridge side are plenty since those are wide and I have several different depths (the huge one can be for pots and pans, the thin ones can be for trays/cookie sheets, etc.)

Your kitchen has some similarities to ours, so here are my suggestions. Skip the cabinet over the range and just do a stainless hood. It will be hard to access, and should save you money.

For trays and cookie sheets, I prefer vertical storage, so you don't have to remove everything to get at the bottom one. It can be a narrow base cabinet or vertical dividers in an upper cabinet.

With our type of cabinets, using lower drawers resulted in a big loss of storage, as well as reduced flexibility. I did cabinets with pullouts. If your salad spinner or Dutch oven doesn't fit, you can adjust the pullouts.

It's probably too late to include, but it's useful to have a landing zone next to a fridge.

Thanks! I currently have a small landing next to fridge and never use it. My designer friend said make the fridge wall all solid storage as that would look better and also because I have plenty of counter space on other side. My neighbor has the same kitchen, and said they regretted the little counter landing next to fridge as they felt it wasnt needed.

I guess kitchens really do largely come down to personal preference. I think my neeves will go away once I see it coming together!

The fact that the window isn't centered is a non-issue, to me. Not at all.

As far as a landing space on the fridge wall, I have one, and I still use the counter across from the fridge (4 feet away). I never use the landing space next to the fridge.

Good luck and enjoy the final result!

As others have said, the window not being centered is not an issue. Symmetry is seriously overrated, especially in a kitchen. Your window wall is far more interesting without the window being centered.

It's common to be nervous about spending so much money. I know you've already paid for the cabinets, but base cabinets with drawers are much more functional than door cabinets with fixed shelves. Perhaps it's not to late to amend the order.

Where would you recommend I put more drawers on window side?

Everywhere except the sink base.

Keep in mind the cabinets have adjustable pull out shelves. Does that change your opinion at all?

I might just leave it. I have very few drawers now and have never given it a second thought.

A landing place by the frig, would be more important to me, than more drawers in the bottom cabinets. I know many want all drawers these days, but, I, personally, like regular type base cabinets. (I have had both).

The window is a non-issue, imo, also. The glass to the left of it looks nice, and to my eye it helps to create a cohesive look with the window - and distracts from the window placement. I think the bank of glass there is smart. Also, I agree and often say myself that symmetry is very overrated. A bit (or sometimes even quite a bit) of asymmetry can be far more interesting. I would leave it as you have it. However all this being said - if it’s an issue to ’you’ - do something different; because you are right - so much of this comes down to personal preference and what works best for you in your space.

Thank you all for the input. I think I’m gonna leave all as is most likely. I will

overall be increasing drawers from what I have now, and never found that to be an issue.

You all made me feel better about window placement. It basically has to be there given the 36 range and it being flanked by equal 15 cabs. I figured each side of window has something ”special” too (glass cabs vs range).

I think Im just way too analytical (anal) sometimes hehe

I see no issue having the fridge built In with no immediately adjacent landing space- I’ve always unloaded groceries on the counter opposite the fridge.

Ws just told today is the last day I can make changes. Might sneak in some more drawers on window side. any suggestions where? Im thinking the 24” right near the peninsula might be good to make all drawers. Thanks!

For my kitchen, I would put drawers on the right side of the range. Since you're on a deadline I'll spell it out in detail: I would make it a 3-drawer bank, not a 4-drawer like you have to the right of your range. So you would have 1 shallow drawer for utensils, and then 2 deep drawers that could hold pots and baking dishes, just like your cabinet rollouts can. Also, depending on what items you would store there, you might want to make it one bank of drawers that spans the entire width between the range and the sink. If you are putting large pots and pans there, a wider single drawer will help accomodate everything.

Of course I would put drawers near the peninsula too. But if you can only change one place, I would do the range, since you said the peninsula cabinet won't need to be accessed as much. You have designed a beautiful kitchen that's going to work well for you, even if you stick with all cabinets & rollouts!

Thanks! appreciate the advice. I cant do drawers to immediate right of sink, as thats where the double waste pan is going.

Did you see the photo of the fridge wall side? I do have some nice size drawers there, all 30” and two are pretty deep. The ones by the range are only 15”, but I agree the one on left of range should be 3 deeper drawers and not 4

Yes, those drawers look great! I'm just an insatiable drawer nut. My current approach (starting our remodel any week now ...) is cabinets for a few specific applications, drawers everywhere else. But that's my hangup. You know best what you need. Please post pictures of your finished kitchen!

Thanks! I have until tomorrow morning, but I think I might actually leave it as is. I have shallow drawers across the whole window wall counter (the top drawers), and have a stack of them by the range. Not to mention I have some good size drawers beneath the oven on the other side. And, all the lower cabinets are adjustable two layers of pullouts. I have very few drawers now and I'm totally fine. Kitchen designer said down the road I can always swap some cabs for drawers if I really wanted.

Maybe I'll put some right next to range (on the immediate left), but not sure I really need it. The only two places I could put more drawers are to the immediate left of range (15" wide single door with two pullouts) or right next to peninsula (24" wide with two double door pullouts). I feel making 24" wide drawers might be a bit much, and I don't want to split the 24" up I don't think (not sure it even can, since the next sizes I think are 18", 15" or 12"). But maybe the 15" to left of range can be made drawers.

Sooo last minute advice needed! I think I'm going to make each drawer bank on each side of the range 3 drawers each. The first will be shallow, the second two deeper. I want them to be the same size so they line up, so I'll get rid of the 4 stack. Part of me wants to keep one 4 stack, but then I worry they should line up. Not sure what will look better.

Near the peninsula, I'm thinking to make the 24" cab directly to left of dishwasher a stack of 3 drawers too (same height as the ones by the range to keep the lines clean). I still want seating on both sides of peninsula (my neighbor did this and it worked - I don't mind the cabs beneath peninsula being only 15" deep, as I have plenty of storage overall), but I might move one chair away so the drawers open without me having to move it (and just use that chair if I need extra seating).

Does this sound like a good idea? I'm pretty certain on making 3 drawers on each side of range, but undecided on converting the 24" cab near dishwasher (left) to drawers too. I also have a stack of 4 drawers 30" wide on fridge wall (two are deep, two are shallow).

I'm a big believer in 2 deep drawers vs a cabinet with 2 shelves or rollouts. But 3 drawers vs 4 drawers, it's hard to give advice without knowing what you need to store. Before I ordered our cabinets, I mapped out what each drawer would store. I made a mockup with posterboard and actually laid out my items. It doesn't sound like you have time to do that level of examination. So, "shortcut."

Do you have enough utensil storage in your upper drawers for all of the small stuff? In convenient locations? Standing at the range, you need hot pads and stirring utensils in easy reach. Prep zone needs knives, vegetable peelers, and measuring utensils. Are you putting knives or a utensil jar on the countertop, or do you want it all in drawers? If you have enough upper drawers to comfortably hold all your critical small stuff, then 3-drawer banks are probably the most useful.

Thanks mcarroll! Overall, I think I do have enough shallow drawers (right beneath the counter) along the window wall. As it is now, I have a 24" next to the dishwasher, and 18" to direct right of sink (double garbage is beneath it), a 15" next to that, and then a 15" on right of range (with the 3 drawers beneath it). And two shallow drawers on the fridge wall can be either utensiles or even small baking sheets/trays.

I'm not much of a cook (looking to change that, although I can make some dishes here and there), so my inexperience has made it harder to design this kitchen haha. Doing the best I can!

A bit undecided on what to do with the 24" cab to left of dishwasher. The more I think this over (probably WAY too much at this point lol) - I think I'm gonna put drawers on each side of the range (all 15" wide), but leave the one near the peninsula alone. Because if I change the peninsula one too, then I'll have no rollouts at all. I know everyone on here seems to prefer drawers, but I like having options, and I'm still learning what I want/need. So, trying to hedge my bets.

The question now is, do I make both 3 drawers on each side of range, one 3 one 4. Just dont want the kitchen to end up looking "busy," but I know fuctionality is key.

If you've got enough upper drawers for everything you need at the range, I would agree with 3-drawer banks on each side of the range. Deeper drawers can hold the pans you will want at the cooktop. For the peninsula side, whether you have drawers or rollouts, you will have similar storage space. So go with the one you feel best about--sounds like it's rollouts.

For someone who doesn't cook much, you have really designed a lovely kitchen!

Thank you Mccaroll :) Haha well I definitely designed it with aesthetics first, but also took inspiration from my neighbor's kitchen. They have the same house I do, and while my kitchen will certainly be different in many ways, the layout is quite similar (especially the peninsula with seating on both sides, the other side being a "bar" with the sunken sunroom).

I think I may just make the ones by the peninsula drawers as well. A bit worried about not having any lower cabinet rollouts for adjustable height, BUT, I will have plenty of storage for taller things above the fridge, above both of my pantries, and above the wall oven on the other side. For that reason, I now lean towards doing drawers on both sides of range, and near the peninsular (left of dishwasher) as well.

One last question for you, as I'm in my final moments of obessing haha. Is it best to make all three of those drawer stacks 3 drawers for a clean line across the window wall? That's what I strongly lean towards. I might have liked one stack of 4 drawers at the range, but don't want it to end up looking too busy on that side. Plus, I've got 3 shallow drawers (2 15" and one 18") close to the range area, so I think I'm ok to do all stacks of 3.

I'm the wrong person to ask--I don't actually care about clean lines at all in my kitchen. I would have everything out on a rail system, on wall-mounted pegboard, open shelves, etc. The new tidy drawers we ordered are the compromise between form and function that keeps my husband willing to continue living here.

For you, it sounds like you have all the shallow storage you need. And aesthetics are clearly a big part of your pleasure in your kitchen. So do symmetrical 3 drawers. Worst case scenario is you need a little extra utensil storage, and you put an attractive crock of tools on the countertop. But you will feel happy every day looking at the clean lines you designed.

So I decided to do 3 drawers on each side of the range, and also drawers towards the peninsula (right next to dishwasher). I had to make the cab next to it go from 15 to 18 and the 24 to left of peninsula became a 21 and is now a stack of 3 drawers (same height as ones by range to keep horizontal alignment - since my kitchen, though a good size, is not ginormous, this matters to me as asymmetry is harder to "hide").

I understand why everyone says "no seating on prep side," I really do, but my neighbor did it, and it seemed to work out just fine. Yes, the cabs beneath the peninsula are only 15" deep, but I have a ton of storage on the fridge wall with two pantries, so I'll just put seldomly used crap beneath peninsula and in that corner (where window wall meets peninsula). Would've been nice to have 3 24" drawers, but now I have 2 stacks of 15" drawers, 1 shallow 18" drawer near range (above garbage), a stack of 3 21" drawers, and a stack of 4 30" drawers (2 are pretty deep) on fridge wall. So overall I think I'm pretty good with drawers.

The only lower cabs I really have are beneath the sink (cleaning supplies for me), and beneath peninsula and at that corner (but those are 15" deep only). Tons of storage for taller items above both pantries, above wall speed oven, and above fridge even. Not to mention I can always "borrow" from one pantry and put stuff like a blender in there if nowhere else to put it.

I'm still such a novice cook and dont have a lot of gear, but I think I pulled it off as best I could while being true to what I want. My current kitchen has that peninsula as an actual table that's more in the kitchen with chairs on both sides. By pushing it out I get a bigger kitchen overall, but didnt want to give up seating on both sides.