"Is subzero-wolf worth the 8 months wait?"

That's up to you. How much of your own food do you prepare? How important is freshness to you? For me a SZ frig/freezer is worth it but for many people it'd not be.

I’m going on 9 months lead time waiting for my Wolf stove. I ordered it in April, was told October, then it was pushed to November, then beginning of December, was just told now the end of December. The appliance store just told me that the Miele is only a 1 month wait so playing with the idea of going with the Miele although slightly higher in price.

Thank you for the input! I haven’t ordered the appliances yet with all my back and forth indecisiveness…
So sounds like maybe better not go for subzero now… I was leaning towards thermador because of lead time, but went to order on the weekend and was told that they are also 4-6 months estimated with no promised delivery date.. so went home to rethink..

Order the high end one you want then buy a “garage fridge” that will fit in your space for a few months. Move it to garage or basement when the new one arrives!

Thanks for sharing this- I actually didn't look into monogram- maybe should check it as well!

newkitchenny55- you say you did not like your previous Thermador- could you explain more what you did not like?

(as i was considering Thermador) was it an older Thermador or a newer one?

thx!

@itd3 it was a aslightly older Thermador that came with the house which I bought in 2012 but maybe it was from 2005 or so? It was very difficult for me to get a simmer, the flames just didn't go down that low. A few had the on/off thing at automatic intervals which I just didnt like, it would get too hot then too cold instead of constant simmer. I also had issues with the ignitors on the burners.and my favorite burner would just stop working for a while then randomly start working again. It was a 30" oven but took significantly longer to preheat than my new 36" oven. The worst thing though was how shallow the oven is. I couldn't fit my cookie sheets front to back, only side to side which meant the capacity was greatly reduced. The size of the monogram oven is much deeper. I actually took cookie sheets into stores to make sure I wouldnt run into the same problems.

thanks for explaining in detail

good points1

Consumer Reports has ratings of most of those appliances. Check appliancesconnection.com, ajmadison.com, homedepot.com, bestbuy.com for availability. Appliance prices are high and availability is low now. If you don't need the appliances soon, I'd wait for the market to improve. Note that manufacturers sell under various brands so the "high end" appliance is often the pedestrian appliance with a different label (GE Appliances: Ge, Profile, Cafe, Monogram; BSH: Bosch, Thermador, Gaggenau; Samsung, Dacor). For example, the Samsung NQ70M7770DS ($3865) and Dacor DOC30P977DS ($6699) wall ovens appear to be nearly identical.

thermador range top-

from newkitchenny55 answer I learn that there is an issue with simmer on Thermador range top. Anybody has more to share about that? I just learned that their flame goes on and of to keep the low heat- which sound like not a great solution... comparison to the wolf range top, anybody?

thanks!