Help! white Oak Floors stained today & look pink on some boards!
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Easiest way to get a lighter stain look on white oak flooring?
Comments (14)White Oak is KNOWN for tannin bleed. That's when the orangey-yellow tones in the wood pull to the surface when a WATER based finish is used. This is unavoidable unless you use a sealant. Something like Bona Nordic Seal will do TWO THINGS: It will offer a slightly silver colour while SEALING the White Oak. You can then top this with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD for one of the toughest floors in industry. To compare costs of product ALONE: Minwax stains = $20/quart (covers 150sf; or 600sf per gallon) Bona Traffic HD = $130+ gallon (covers 400 - 500sf per gallon) Bona Nordic Seal = $80+ per gallon (covers about 400sf) Minwax Finish = $40/gallon (covers 500sf/gallon) Notice the Bona Traffic is 4 TIMES more expensiv than Minwax??? Cost for the 'guy' to get the training = $$$ Cost for the builder to get this WRONG = thousands and thousands of dollars (which you have to FIGHT him/her for!!!) It is CHEAPER for the Builder to send his 'guy' to the Bona factory to take the three day course than it is to have his 'guy' mess this up! I am NOT kidding about that. And I would argue the builder's statement "...should be able to handle a water based system...". Sigh. I've seen it over and over and over again. Oil based guys (especially if they are 'old-timers') have a HARD time figuring out Water based. I actually had one 'finisher' who believed he had been using 'water based' finishes for the last 20 years. His reasoning? Because the stuff coming out of the can was 'liquid'. He thought that meant 'water'. Yep. It has happened. It will happen again. And it will continue to happen until water based is the ONLY option. Ask your builder if you can out-source the finishing of the wood floors - with credit going to your budget because he doesn't have to deal with the costs. I doubt it. They make WAY too much money on the mark-up for flooring...but you can try....See Morewhite oak and red oak floor next to each other stain help
Comments (5)I don't think you will be able to get that light look consistently with red and white oak. You probably need to go with a medium neutral stain on all floors, one that has green tones in it. Green is the complement to red/pink, and mixing complementary colors neutralizes them. I've had success with Special Walnut stain throughout my home. The floors in the original (1920s) part of the home are oak, not sure if red or white. The new white oak floors in the kitchen were installed in 2014; all are stained special walnut. Here is a photo of the transition area between dining room (above the saddle) and kitchen (below the saddle). The color is not too dark and not too light. Depending on the light it can look warmer or cooler. It's my "go-to" color for me and my clients for many years....See MoreHelp!!! White Oak Floors are Pink after Bona NaturalSeal
Comments (15)See my similar (but far less costly) experience with this post: Ever bought white oak, but got red? And the pink part was not a trick of the eye, but literally a staining of the treatment that I could scrape off with my fingernail. I have had this happen with antique doors I am refinishing as well... As you can see by some of the professionals' answers, there is no specific "white oak" tree, nor "red oak" tree, but rather a bunch of different species that get slotted into the two separate boxes and a few in between. (For example, we started a green leaf maple and red leaf maple in the same pot; they grafted onto each other before we planted in yard, and the resulting, single tree is somewhere in between...plenty of trees in a forest can do something similar. ) Plus, what we've Iearned is that in some mills, the decisions to figure out what's what once logs arrive to be planed is often done by "looking at them." The only way you can know for sure is to send a sample scraping of several of the boards to NWFA or university botany department to have it tested to see if what you have fits neatly into one or the other category... To the other poster, If it ended up grey after being refinished, this could be a purple hue of the red and white of the wood's tannins mixed with blue-ish undertone that is used to make white "cool." White is not free of other colors, and "natural" sealers have a tiny bit of white in them......See MoreStained white oak solid wood flooring. Help.
Comments (7)It's odd to have a milling issue twice on one order. I can probably count the milling issues I've seen from 1985 to present using the fingers on one hand. I can't determine much from your picture but the color does remind me of products I've seen where the wood was treated chemically to achieve a unique appearance that's not achievable with a regular staining process. I'd love to see a bigger picture. In the US we have lumber grades and some milled flooring species have grading rules set by manufacturer's associations, Finished products generally require referring to the maker since they're not governed by the associations. In unfinished Oak you have Clear, Select, #1, #2 and #3. In prefinished items you'll often see just a select grade and maybe a rustic grade. Sounds like you're describing the difference between unfinished Clear and Select. Manufacturers don't sort for color, but they might cull out boards with sapwood in the Clear grade, leading to a more uniform coloration. Don't know what you paid but I'm buying some 6" wide 2' to 10' unfinished engineered White Oak and it's over $8/sq.ft. Recently a contractor requested a bid to install wood being purchased by the homeowner and the product was around $20/ft. for Rustic and $25/ft. for Select. Prices are kind of crazy out there....See Morelana_ayscue
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