We have a very similar plan and dimensions. We're using a 36" range with oven, so no need for double wall ovens which would eat up a ton of upper and lower space. Do you need all those ovens? If it's for once a year holiday cooking, think about learning to barbeque your turkey. :)

Also with that much seating at the island and the dining table right there, the breakfast nook seems redundant.

Good luck!

You're probably right that we wouldn't use all those ovens regularly, but I feel bad giving them up since they are included in the build, and we might use them more once kids are older and need to eat more food! One of them is also a combo microwave/convection oven which hopefully could also replace a countertop air fryer. Thanks for your input.

My calculation is 17'6" minus 24" for the sink run counter, minus 48" for the range, minus 60" for the frig/freezer, minus 30" for the wall ovens leaves you 24" of counter to allocate. Impossible.

Moving 30" of freezer to a pantry and going with a 36" induction cooktop gives you 66" to split between the frig to cooktop and cooktop to wall ovens. That's still tight.

Revisit the house's design and the space allocation for the intended use. Large appliances are a response to heavy use cooking for a lot of people, which means a larger kitchen, dining room, and living room. From the information provided, it appears the house design does not call for such large appliances, the appliance sizes and the room sizes do not proportionally concur.

@dan1888, I also did the math and I get 48 inches left using the existing appliance sizes - I hope that's right (not 24")? So there could be just under 2 feet to either side of the range, plus a few inches so that the wall ovens don't abut the edge of the other counter. I know it would still be tight.

Also I forgot to mention that parents/in-laws will be staying with us (and eating) for extended periods and thus I would prefer to keep all the appliances.

So you will be cooking for four people?

5 people every day (some of whom will eat increasing amounts of food over the next several years), 7 people a few times a week and 9 people several times per year.

The line listed as 17'6" goes all the way to the wall as shown by the arrow tip. That means the sink run counter 24" dimension is included and must be subtracted. And usually the countertop for that run is 25.5" while the cabinets are 24". So even less room for the perpendicular counter run. Your appliance selection is too much for the space and your 5 person family size. As an aside, don't choose Viking appliances. Junk. Sub-Zero or Miele for refrigeration.

I think I'd clear everything off window/door wall. Create two islands running the other way [left to right] . then the stove/fridge wall can be maximized with no corner issue....place oven stack at the end , up from cooktop. skip appliance garage. RE: two islands ....one at top has sink and dishwasher....second island nearer dining zone has seating. you have 20 ft across ..maybe remove little stub wall near living space[ what is the purpose?] and even more than 20 ft across.....larger seating island if you want....? big square island. Get better zones this way....better seating venue.... try inspiration pics for large double island kitchens and you'll see how the zone creation will help you w what you state are your needs w numbers of people as well task zones. You're going to get bottlenecked in your original plan...it would only be okay in smaller household of people: from fridge to sinks which are too close together and one being opposite the cooktop and aisle is not wide enough and corner is used up w oven stack and useless garage. with the two islands you create more spots...it can be actually more and better storage also w drawers as asset.

@dan1888, I thought I subtracted 24" for the sink counter run and still had 48" left...11.5ft for the appliances, 2ft for the sink counter, leaves 4 feet.

One other idea was to eliminate one of the wall ovens so only have one, and put that one in the island, and that would give back 30" for the appliance wall.

@herbflavor, I believe those "stubs" are support beams that come down and can't be moved.

I did think about turning the island 90 degrees since that space is so long, but thought that might look odd from the family room. All pictures and layouts I've seen for other houses have the island oriented horizontally between the kitchen and family room. I realize that function is important, but is it considered "odd" to see the short end of an island when looking from the family room to the kitchen?

Appliance garage would be used, as I used to put my kitchenaid and blender in that corner anyway, so having a garage would just allow them to be hidden when not used.

@bmorepanic Thanks for drawing that for me! I like how the ovens would go in that corner. I'm not sure about blocking the path and the light from the kitchen to the family room area, though. Too bad there aren't a few more feet the other way so that a wall like that could be added separating the kitchen and dining room which seems to work better.

you can do things at ends of islands..shallow bookcase .....end panel..furniture feet...etc, your need to accomodate the larger household would make me 100% do the double islands and turning them gives view out window . people are going to be all over your spaces from what you describe ..you absolutely need zones and more spaces than your plan. Good Luck.

This is me, speaking gently... It's perfectly fine, of course, that you want your new kitchen to be anyway you want it. I'm just going to mention stuff in the next paragraph that is more fact and less feel. I am happy for people to have what they want for whatever reason, but this is what I think you should know.

The light from the kitchen windows is never going to reach the family room through an opening that is 90 degree angle. There is somewhat of a view of the kitchen windows (probably) but it's kinda far and pretty much angled away. The opening over the sink area should preserve some connection. The family room seems to have a triple slider facing in exactly the same direction as the kitchen windows - but it's bigger and closer, not turned at an odd angle with much smaller glass area and people standing in front of them using the sink, etc. Maybe think about where furniture and stuff will be placed in the family room - like sofa(s)/TV/AV/Game consoles, recliners, game tables and how those interactions will change as people grow and change.

I like to think of the traffic to/from the family room as being "channeled" so people aren't wandering everywhere but you sound like you like that. The Last Thing I Ever Want is to be able to hear a TV while cooking, but you're probably different. I'm still recovering from 7 sibs growing up together in small homes.

Everyone proposes stuff based on what they like or dislike or have found to work or not work.

Maybe a peninsula and island design would give you much more counter space and drawers for storage. Are you even able to make major changes to the design?

@LH CO/FL I have definitely seen ovens in islands before (including in the blogger Chrislovesjulia's new kitchen plan) - is it a safety issue you are concerned about?

It's a safety/comfort issue of having something big and hot right where people might want/need to prep and hang out.

@bmorepanic Thanks for your continued thoughts. I realized that my comment before about blocking the light wasn't clear, especially with the partial floor plan I posted. In the lower right corner where that rectangle is, there is actually a large open staircase with large windows facing east, which should hopefully bring morning light in that would partially get to the kitchen if it is open there.

The "channeling" concept is worth thinking about.

There's a big difference between a speed oven in an island and a standard oven.

I found these pictures of what the current layout for the appliance wall would look like (roughly) (just for layout purposes, not finishes).

(Eliminate the dishwasher section in the first picture and imagine a larger fridge.)

You seem to cook a lot of food and often so I trust you are confident on your appliance needs. I do not see storage near Dishwasher for dishes. That one upper is not enough. Seems you have plenty of windows, so I would just do one window over the sink and the rest of the windows become uppers.

I would eliminate the ”breakfast nook” and double the size of the island depth remove the sink from the island and use for serving, nice clean open space for every day and entertaining That gives you significantly more storage and less redundancy

What about changing the shape of your island to use up more of the "waste of empy space" in the breakfast area that you mention in your initial post? If you change it to an L shape, you could put drawers across from the sink/dishwasher wall to put everyday dishes in (making sure the walkway space is sufficient for open dishwasher/drawer pull out). Also, not sure what is in the appliance garage in the corner, but maybe that could go in cabinets/drawers in a redesigned island as well to give more counter space on the left wall?

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