i recently had my concrete patios & walkways removed, had pavers installed in their place by my landscape architect’s company. They used some sort of compacted soil & base for the pavers. I’ve never heard of doing what you suggest.

So are you saying if i get a concrete patio… i cant even professionally hire someone to put in a paver kitchen or fireplace? pavers have to be put on pavers?

I understood you to say you were considering placing pavers on top of a concrete patio???

I read your post as you are substituting a concrete patio for pavers to save some money. Then at some point later, add paver block kneewalls/pillars and a cooking island.

If you like the paver block look for the above-patio stuff, go for it. However, your concrete slab should account for them with footings or thickened edges, whatever utilities you want to bring to the island, and slope around them.

Here's the thing. Paver block walls/pillars (larger blocks, finished caps) are pretty expensive. It doesn't make sense to save a few bucks on a concrete slab that won't match the level of design of the walls. If you want to match, then you'd be going with something like a stamped concrete. So you've then cancelled any cost savings by going concrete.

The concrete slab is not an "upgrade" over pavers, just a different direction. If you are pouring concrete, then you probably would pair that with a CMU/stucco/stone kneewall and island. If you want paver block kneewalls, you would pair that with a paver patio and do it all at the same time.

@Seabornman @K Laurence i found a picture of what i was saying…. paver accents (wall, fire pit, island island) on top of concrete. what do you think?

If it can be done & you like the look go for it.

Gigi S, those are pavers, not concrete.

Gigi, this looks similar in construction to the patio in your last picture. It's pavers over compacted crushed stone. We used to have a stamped concrete patio here and had it torn out this summer to put this in. The concrete patio was OK but the cracks that developed in just a few years were pretty unsightly.

The walls will have to have excavated and formed footings. So to do that, you will need to have the layout planned NOW, and do a monolithic pour, that also pours the rebar reinforced footers. That rebar has to extend above ground, to be tied into the walls. Or, you do the walls first, with the slab area being the machine compacted crusher run that you can pour a slab in top of later.

Either way, the entire design, with the correct materials, has to be planned out NOW. Before you touch anything. Or youll spend twice as much backtracking, to fix the mistakes. Hire a landscape designer. That expertise pays for itself.

I think you should pay attention to the concrete paving stones. Concrete paving stones are among the most popular facing covers for garden and park paths. Today you can buy such products of any size and color. And there is no need to bother as you do. You will probably spend a lot less money on this if you contact almightyconstructionnw and order these works. I applied to them half a year ago for a similar project and am very satisfied with the quality of the work