Lind, I spray all of my grapes since I have a few disease-susceptible ones and while spraying I hit them all. I didn't have enough room so gave my Steuben to my neighbor a few years ago. Its only a couple feet from my property and it always looks fine even though they never spray it. So it will probably do OK. I think its an excellent eating grape with a unique spicy flavor, but it has seeds which is a big downside these days. Most fuzzy kiwis don't ripen but Saanichton has been ripening well for me. I am trying several varieties of early ripening fuzzy kiwi to get the best one and Saanichton is the only one that has fruited. The hardy kiwis are also liked by many people but my kids won't eat them and they are my indicators of what average Americans like. I have some more hardy kiwi varieties ripening this year and maybe there will be one that my kids like. My kids do like muscadines, I was surprised. I had to pull mine up a few years ago to make room for another experiment I was doing but I plan on eventually putting some back in. Scott

Sugargate is a female vine, and will therefore need a male, such as "Isons", as a pollenator. Have you had muscadines before? I have some planted, but just for my wife who loves them. I can't stand them, however. They taste nothing like regular grapes. To me, they taste like motor oil smells. Yuck. If you do like them, I'd recommend trying Ison's nursery as they carry nearly every type of muscadine. Muscadines are also probably the best grape for the south as they are native here and have very good disease resistance. I hear "Darlene" and "Black Beauty" are two of the best, but they may both be female. I also recommend Double A Vineyard for regular grapes. They carry all of the grapes from the Arkansas breeding program that are supposed to be good for the south. Of those EL offers, Muscadines and Mars would probably be the best for you as it is an Arkansas variety. I've added a link from Double A that has some great info. Here is a link that might be useful: Grape chart This post was edited by RobThomas on Mon, May 6, 13 at 13:03

Debi, your pic doesn't work. It says deleted or moved. Tell me, did you win your Cissus on Ebay? The seller had several auctions, titled grape/oak leaf ivy. Of course I had to have one..it arrived today..it's not a grape ivy, it's oak leaf ivy..I'm happy. Walmart sometimes sells grape ivy's, and although they're beautiful, especially when mature and hanging in a sunny spot, I prefer oak leaf.. So let me know if you won your plant on Ebay. The Oak Leaf won is big. I've got to dl new plant pics, haven't had time since I've been repotting. 3 days of repotting! lol..Try another picture..Toni One more thing. Ppl have different concepts regarding light conditions..What one might deem 'x' window full sun, someone else might call it bright light. There's confusion when ppl discuss light conditions. When I worked at Rentokil and Home Depot, customers would ask questions about light. Because a tag said, bright light, they jumped to the conclusion that plant needed desert sun. lol..NOT! Unless someone literally sees a room during the day, we can only assume. See if your AV flowers. If it doesn't, then it's not because the area didn't have sufficient light. It could be your AV. Oversized pot, lack of fertlizers, etc. If your AV's potted in soil-less mix, it need more fertilizer than a plant potted in soil. Good luck..Toni

Yes, they do fight mildew in California. Most of the grape growing regions are not far from the coast and have some marine influences (such as fog) which increase pressure. I agree with you, the OP could have mildew issues without getting the vines wet - that just seems like a possibility for vines in a yard. There are other possibilities. If the vines are in a location with obstructed sunlight or airflow, that would increase pressure. Also, being in a watered lawn would greatly increase humidity around the vines and increase vine vigor which also increases mildew pressure (they don't need as much water as grass). Based on my experience growing grapes in this climate, mildew can be avoided / greatly reduced with proper irrigation, trellising, pruning, and canopy management. We've had half of your rainfall this summer (0.48 inches since May), which is not that unusual. We typically get about an inch, with pretty much all of it in June. I do hit my vines and fruit trees with dormant oil and lime sulfur. I'm not even sure that is needed most years, but an ounce of prevention...