Therese Bugnet rose, do you recommend it? (Zone 3)
Roger Smith
2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago
Featured Answer
Sort by:Oldest
Comments (18)
flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoRoger Smith thanked flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WARelated Discussions
Is Therese Bugnet a good rebloomer?
Comments (23)Anita, Yes I would agree it is new growth that gives you the bloom on Theresa - but I believe that to be the case with nearly all roses that I do not prune. I think it is just the wording that confuses people about repeat. In my case Theresa's late blooms come either from new laterals off old cane that erupt after the spring flush or new basals. Can not remember if I ever seen it from new cane growing from existing spring bloom sites - I don't think this rose does that but I need to check. So in that sense Theresa does not really a "repeat" in the way I see it on Nevada / Pink Nevada. In this rose new cane develops from the flowering site whose blooms I never prune off and terminates with a new bloom (sorry my rose part terminology is lax). I was absolutely riveted by it last year thinking it was quite cool and unique until Cass mentioned it also happens on HP's. I never prune Theresa and never would like a HT for repeat as I doubt it would work for this shrub rose - but it is an interesting test. How tall is the cemetery version and the cane thickness at the base?...See MoreTherese Bugnet
Comments (17)Olga, my experience so far has been no diseases on TB (I have 2), but its leaves are a welcome snack for some parassites (don't ask me for the english name, look in google under the latin name, Arge pagana). TB grows as big as Rosereie, and nearly as big as Scabrosa, but R and S are superior in reblooming and parfume. So I'd suggest you R or S rather than TB. Like TB no disease, but conrary to TB their leaves are no snack for anyone. I have 5 R and 4 S vs. 2 TB: this reflects also my relative evaluation: TB is no bad, but could be better. PS: neither R nor TB have hips, whereas S has......See MoreTherese Bugnet and her little sister Marie
Comments (9)Countryrose, those are some splendid photos. I have both "sisters" growing near one another. Therese is quite prone to attack by rose stem girdler and so she does not get a chance to reach her full potential but is constantly trying to grow new canes to replace the ones I have to prune away; she reaches about 4 ft. maximum. In spite of Therese' lovely reddish canes, my heart goes to Marie. The purity of her white petals is heartbreaking - and those red accented buds! Ahhhh, so beautiful. She is extremely diminutive here, being only about 2' tall. I have to get down on hands and knees to appreciate Marie's beauty and fragrance, growing there at the foot of her sister. If there would be any resistance to deer, BTW, it might be that she's so small they would overlook her in favor of more upright browsing - like Therese! ;-)...See MoreTherese Bugnet Rose all floppy
Comments (8)Hi, my name's Tricia & I read through the Northern Forum a lot but rarely post here because I live in Connecticut now. But, I have some experience with the roses being discussed here from living in New Hampshire & so I thought I'd make a post. Hope nobody minds. R. 'Therese Bugnet' will naturally grow into a vase-shaped form with her canes arching up and over. She's never, on her own, going to look like a stout, bushy rugosa...she's got much more grace than that. She'll need about an 8' circle of real estate to really strut her stuff. The canes will be held off the ground enough you can plant small ground covers (like geraniums) at her feet & she looks wonderful. Since she's an early bloomer...she often experiences heavy rains while in full bloom. I have found that her flowers are remarkedly sturdy...I just gave the canes a good shake to get rid of excess water & left her alone. A couple hours later the flowers were always looking pretty good. R. 'John Cabot' (Canadian Explorer Series) is a much larger rose than R. 'Therese Bugnet'. 'John Cabot''s natural form is also to grow tall & then arch over. It's even more robust than R. 'William Bafflin'! To let this rose do its natural thing...give it about a 10-12' circle of real estate & just let those long, wonderful canes grow up until gravity takes over & they gracefully arch over towards the ground. It's a stunning sight in full bloom! It'll naturally grow to about 8-10' tall. OR, 'John Cabot' can be trained to be a quasi-climber. It will require a tall, very sturdy trellis because this rose throws LOTS of canes each year. The canes will still have a tendency to reach for the top of the trellis & arch over the top. I had an old clothes line in my back yard...we removed two end posts & attached a swing to the other set of posts. Planted a 'John Cabot' at the base of each post. In four years, both rose bushes had grown to the top of the posts and arched over the top pole...draping the swing in roses for two glorious weeks in June. Right after bloom, 'John Cabot' begins throwing new, vigorous canes. Tie these up quickly because they seem to harden off faster than most roses & become difficult to work with even just after a couple weeks. If you are allowing your 'John Cabot' to grow naturally...every year (starting with year 3), prune out 3-4 of the oldest canes at the base to keep the shrub vigurous. If you have an "own root" shrub & experiene winter die-back...you can cut 'John Cabot' to the ground each spring & it'll regrow to about a 4' shrub each season assuming about a 100 day season. Like R. 'Theresa Bugnet', it's natural form though is NOT bushy, stout, & short. Think something more like a natural (unpruned) forsynthia that has been allowed to grow unmolested by pruners (although, of course, a rose will never be as dense as a forsynthia)...and that's the effect R. 'John Cabot' has in the landscape. Hope someone finds my experience useful....See MoreMischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoRoger Smith
2 years agoMischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
2 years agoflowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
2 years agojc_7a_MiddleTN
2 years agoflowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agojc_7a_MiddleTN
2 years agoflowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
2 years agoMischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
2 years agoflowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
2 years agoMischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last yearSheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
last yearMischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last yearmzdee
last year
Related Stories
LANDSCAPE DESIGNMake Your Roses Even More Beautiful With These Companion Plants
Nourish your rosebushes and create a visual feast with these 7 classic and unexpected plant pairings
Full StoryGARDENING GUIDESGreat Garden Combo: 3 Wonderful Plants for a Deer-Resistant Screen
Protect your privacy and keep deer at bay with a planting trio that turns a problem garden area into a highlight
Full StoryGARDENING GUIDESWhat Kind of Roses Should You Grow?
Want to add the beauty of roses to your garden? Find out which ones, from old-fashioned to modern, are right for you
Full StoryWINTER GARDENINGPruning Secrets for Exquisite Roses
Encourage gorgeous blooms year after year with this time-tested advice on how to prune your rosebush in winter for health and shape
Full StoryGARDENING GUIDES6 Captivating Roses for an Alluringly Fragrant Garden
Perfume your garden with aromas from richly spicy to lightly sweet, without sacrificing an inch of color
Full StoryROSES9 Roses That Landscape Designers Love
See which beautiful and reliable rose varieties are favored by designers around the country
Full StoryGARDENING GUIDESYou’re Going to Want to Stop and Smell These Roses
See top picks from David Austin’s most fragrant roses in colors ranging from ivory to crimson
Full StoryCONTAINER GARDENS3 Steps to Creating Quick, Easy and Colorful Succulent Containers
Take a bright container, add a colorful succulent or two and have a professional, summery design in minutes
Full StoryGARDENING FOR BUTTERFLIES3 Ways Native Plants Make Gardening So Much Better
You probably know about the lower maintenance. But native plants' other benefits go far beyond a little less watering and weeding
Full StoryGARDENING GUIDESGreat Design Plant: Knock Out Roses
As glorious as their high-maintenance kin for a fraction of the work, Knock Out roses make even beginners look like garden stars
Full Story
flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA