@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ we finally have a cloudy day so I can get photos without glare.

Less than a year old, the trellis is 8ft tall. I need to tie in canes again, it's been about 2 weeks since I last tied in.

@librarian_gardner_8b_pnw omgosh!!! he is amazing!!! so big already!!! i guess i need to plan more space for him!

Good gravy!!! What a fabulous grower!! He loves what you're doing, that's for sure!!

@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ WOH was grafted....planted 10 months ago. But yes, vigorous. Twice the height of the Crown Princess Margareta that was planted at the same time (also grafted).

@librarian_gardner_8b_pnw Is that Wollerton old hall? If so that is a wishlist rose of mine! Is it decease resistant? I’m a no spray zone 6 garden so I would need the though guys lol

@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ another yellowish rose that makes my heart flutter is Ghislaine de Felligonde she kind of changes color, pinkish apricot to yellow and white, all in one day and at night she becomes apricot again. She likes shade it seems but is a different shape than the Austins, still very delicate and romantic and very healthy.

@CottageGardenRoses-paz6 yes, its Wollerton Old Hall. I've had it since July 2020, it seems okay so far. We have some black spot pressure but I'm still new at this so I don't know how much bs is normal. I have heard that we get enough bs pressure here tuesday it can be a challenge to grow most Bourbons if that is any kind of helpful context.

WOH was has been pretty clean and healthy for me. I don't spray except the occasional milk water spray for powdery mildew (which is just an issue for lots of plants at certain times of year here). It's in full day sun. You might want to see if someone in your area grows it. So far, I've been very pleased. Flowers 4 to 5 days in the vase and seems to be a continuous bloomer (no huge flushes yet but also no rest...it always has blooms and it cut it to bring inside ofyen).

Decease resistant roses! I love it, haha!

Your roses sre so beautiful ceres !! i love your mary rose . i must add it to my garden . id love to know how the rebloom is on eglantyne for you ? Mine osnt too great and i think its beacaise it is living in a pot

@noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)

I’m not a native English speaker and leave my husband in stitches at times lol

But “deceased resistant roses” it will be lol

@CottageGardenRoses-paz6 lol!! neither am I, and houzz is the worst!!! I’m not sure why, but if you are typing from Iphone is a nightmare!! i gave up correcting here 😂😂

@Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca i love mary rose, super fast rebloom.Eglantyne is the same for me, it did a little better this year but still very few roses and on the smaller side. repeat also weak for me... will keep for another year but not my best rose!

My iphone has gone from correcting individual words to correcting entire sentences. so you can imagine what a mess that is! It’s a good pun though, and many of us would love to have ”decease resistant roses.”

Mine is the same way slightly better for typing but ridiculous for voice recognition. Now with my new kindle fire, it randomly capitalizes words, adds punctuation, And then takes whole sentences and repeats them multiple times. I spend more time erasing and editing then I do Writing. That I'm too discourage to add pictures from my phone! I would also like decease Resistant roses! LOL!

CottageGarden,, & Friends, I’d like a “decease resistant rose, too?” Can you “pount” “point” me in that direction?????Lol! I just spent a lot of time correcting posts “w/typis”.. typos...funniest words it added , such as, “I lice your roses!” (I like your roses.) Yikes! The things I said... or didnt mean to “day”..say.. this Iphone is queen of typos!!!! “Excise” (Excuse) me... I give up!!!! I can actually spell... but my iphone flunked preschool!

Ceres, , How are your roses? Your gardens are the epitome of beautifil light pinks...my favoritesprotea!!! (Whats that? typo? Lol! ) My favorites! My Iphone-I will call her, Delphinia, is a miserable secretary assistant-wish she could spell! Chuckle, Chuckle! (Delphinia has been acting up again!)

@KittyNYz6

I think the red knock out rose is deceased resistant, I almost threw one in a bin thinking it was dead but it’s aliveeee, I’m pretty confident it would have continued to grow in the trash, it has new growth from black “dead” stems and I still don’t understand how. It’s everywhere in the Pittsburgh area. Same with Rosa Multiflora, you can wack it all you want but it will not die, it it’s concidered a weed here and I think mine is older than me, I even moved rose slugs on it lol and maybe New Dawn, mine is not tied up the arbor bc rabbits snapped the stem, she’s a sprawling octopus now, very much a Kraken and I’m the ship lol

I cut my knock outs down to stubs in some cases due to winter damage...but w/good soil/fertizer they are so thriving now.... big plump roses on each! They are strong...but with some nurturing they can be very attractive w/big blooms. Thanks, Cottage Garden, for your tips on deceased resistance -I hope so! Lol!

@KittyNYz6 I don’t think is the IPhone, it’s Houzz. I can type fine in every app, Instagram, my blog etc. but here the words get all messed up, the autocorrect makes even more of a mess 😂😂. I just gave up correcting, I hope people understand that the app really makes it difficult to write correctly.

My roses are taking a break, thankfully when the thrips arrived the spring flush was almost done. I cut all that it was left, I have been applying spinosad. The buds are looking better already. The other day I applied my second round of granular fertilizer to hopefully get another flush, but it’s getting pretty hot now.

The good news is that my backyard renovation is starting tomorrow!! I have been waiting for months for a contractor. I’m so excited, I have around 10 roses in pots waiting to be planted. In the backyard I’m planning an ombré garden with roses ranging from white to dark pink! Unfortunately, most roses are sold out already, I will see what I can find for fall delivery. Does anyone know if Palatine delivers during fall, or is it only spring?

Here is what im thinking for the ombre, but with roses:

And here is the goal for the backyard

Yardzen did this for me, i will probably change the plants around, mostly i want roses, catmint, lavender and boxwood.

Ceres, Ok-So Houzz is the typo culprit? True, when I type other places...no problem! I thought Delphinia was just a dysfunctional typing assistant. Glad to hear your roses are tecovering! Yay! Love your new designs... whites and fushias eill be a lovely addition.

I love your light pinks...its my favorite color. i think I will order more light pinks for my gardens. i wanted prinarily light pink with sprinkles of fushia, white, yelow, peaches, lilacs and a red... I think I need more light pinks now...

Grande Dame is the biggest bloom I have, BTW-a real show stopper. Do you want all English or some HTs, too? Check put photos I just posted on Summer Start thread for my recent blooms. 45 of my roses have bloomed. About 60 of my roses are newish w/no blooms, yet.

Yours will be a beautiful garden.!

And here i tjHought it was hust me!🤔

Ceres - wow!!! That will look fabulous!! I always love the look of concrete slabs bordered by grass. :)

Ceres: what kind of grass or plant are you planning on using in-between the cement slabs?... something durable and can handle lots of foot traffics and tough conditions.
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I love the the look, and I don’t want to go the fake grass route... we have 2 dogs... and Australian Shepherd and a Golden Retriever... and don’t think fake grass will hold up and look good in the long run... as we’ve tried it and I never want to see fake grass again.

Ceres: I’m asking because we’re about to undergo some backyard work too.

Hi @Ann-SoCalZ10b SunStZ22 they just finished today! i actually decided to ho witu gravel in btw bc of the grass maintenence of grass. but the rocks are already annoying me 🤣 i may later on put the fake grass just in btw. i will take some pictures tomorrow. It looks so amazing!

Wait, i have a couple

Wow! Just wow!

Ceres, Lovely! Love white fencing and your patio designs.

Ann - fake grass doesn't hold up well with dogs? My husband said that to me when I mentioned it. So good to know. :)

Ceres - Great job!! I love it!! The white pops and makes your area look magical!

Thank you @rosecanadian @KittyNYz6 @vaporva now, i had planned to plant all roses by the couches, ranging from white to dark pink. however, the more i look the more i get worried with the shade the tree is casting (plus the roots). right now, by 12:30 pm there is already shade there. not sure if this will be enough for the roses. i have 7 waited to be planted but im really nervous about it. what do you guys think? on the plus side, the bench side i can still plant lots of new roses!

I would go for it. You will only know once you plant them and If they do not do well in terms of disease or re bloom on a rose that you have read should do well , then you will have your answer. I know it is a pain to transplant things but if it does well how great is that? I have a ballerina in a similar situation and She does great there Also Marie Pavie and tooth fairy. Which roses are you planting in That bed that is slightly shaded? I'm lucky I'm helping a friend start a rose garden so I've just moved some of my plants to his full sun garden where they have thrived.

Hi, Ceres,

I would recommend you count how many hours of sun each rose will receive. If they receive 6 hrs its ok. I watch the sun all day long to see what spots on my property have 6+ hrs sun. Roses w/leathery glossy leaves tolerate less sun but do not bloom well-but don't usually get black spot/mildew.. Too much shade & some roses have issues. I am moving 2 roses that didnt have enough sun-they are healthy, but no blooms...most of my roses are blooming abundantly in lots of sun! You may try front or side ysrds if back yard doesnt have enough sun? Putting the roses on the side of the back yard that is sunny may be an idea?

Sometimes I will move potted roses around to see how they do in different areas before planting. Kitties suggestion is probably better! Smiley face

Your area may get some evening sun...that would be helpful. :)

CeresMer: here’s a post I wrote for my Organic Rose Gardening group on Facebook that may help you…

This is what I’ve done to test or roses for specific spots in the garden.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/833891250531041/permalink/860299611223538/

RoseCanadian: I don’t recommend fake grass especially if you have pets. It might potentially be ok for limited use in really tricky areas like how CeresMer plans ok using it… but I wouldn’t recommend it from personal experience.

Yeah, it's pretty expensive...so it's good to know that it won't work, before we spend money on it. :)

@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ. Your garden is so stunning and I am so excited to see that you are also in NJ. we are about to move in our new house in NJ , out last house was in Colorado, very different climate. my family and I have been thinking about how to deal with some issues in the garden, like drainage problem, lacking of fencing , deer issue, and we don't really have answer as we are so new to NJ. may I ask you about some detailed information ? we really need some help with info. :) thanks CeresMer.

Hi @Kate_W_NJ_6B sorry for the delay! I been so busy trying to finish the backyard 😆. Welcome to the rose life! I think NJ is great because the seasons are mild, where are you? I’m near Princeton, considered 7A, I had no issues with winter/dieback and even kept some roses in pots. With that said, roses love sun & specially morning sun. I find that if I plant them with morning sun but protected from the harsh afternoon sun they do better, very little disease.

Now let’s talk about soil, mine is clay. Last fall I did a test soil, and while is very rich it’s also sticky/non draining soil.

When the guys were here to redo the backyard, he wanted to plant my roses and I said no, that I needed to prepare the soil. Thank The lord! That night it rained and all the holes they dug were full of water for days.

When I first planted my roses, I didn’t amend the soil, they did terrible. This year I dug most of them to fix the soil. Here is what I do:

Excavate as much as possible from the hole.

Test the hole!! Add 3/5 gallons of water to the hole and see how fast I drains. If takes a couple hours, drainage it’s ok, more than that and drainage is poor.

Once you determine drainage is bad:

Add a cup of gypsum, on the bottom (helps break clay) I usually add some rocks (specially if the hole is deep enough).

Amend the soil with top soil, compost and new garden soil.

Plant the rose above the soils level and fill back with the amended soil. that way, the rose is above the soil level and the roots won’t be in the stagnant water if all the amendments don’t work. Like planting in a raise bed!

Look for water problems, I had to fix some rain spouts and moved it away from the roses.

I watch the weather like a hawk, if it rains, I don’t water it all. We get a lot of rain here, so be extra careful with watering. I do a lot of liquid fertilizer, but never if it has rain over 2in.

Mostly watch the roses carefully to make sure you are not overwatering. Also, most sites will tell you that they like deep watering, however for me, with the soil, I prefer to give 1.5/2 gallons the most per watering more frequently (every 3/4 days during drying spells) this avoids dumping water in a hole that doesn’t drain to begin with.

As you can see above, I have lots of work to do, I will dig deeper abs amend the soil, I will probably only plant my roses in the soil next year. I will fill the holes with top soil and leave it during winter…

some of the roses waiting to be planted

With all the pre-work you're putting in...your roses will be properly situated and will be awesome!! Good job! And wow....those are some purty roses! :)

Hi, Ceres, Did you decide where to put your roses in front or back yard spots? Your project is do beautifully landscaped!

@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ, Hi CeresMer, You are so awesome, thanks a ton for all those tips you put in the message. I am very grateful. I also live kinda close to Princeton, I am located in belle mead. based on zip code, it is in zone 6B. We are yet to move there. This spring we visited the house and it was after some rain, I saw standing water in some area of the backyard and when walked in the backyard, I felt the lawn area was mushy, there are some clay stayed on my shoes. so I think I got clay soil as well. I appreciate the method you shared above, I feel its gonna work. I will follow those tips when I plant the roses.

Our house and the houses around ours do not have fence, we want to have fence to keep the deer out. Do you still have the info of the contractor who did the fence for you? your white fence looks really beautiful and I hope to have a similar fence to our house.

my family are moving to belle mead in late July or early august. I hope we live close :)

Kate! thats so awesome! i do have it, they are local here, called Hertz fencing. they had the best price

kitty, i will no plant the new roses this year. they are still babies, so i will keep them in pots

here are the new roses from this year

Batsheba

im in love with Abe darbhy

@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ, Hi Ceres, thanks for the info of the fence company. This year, I am also keeping all rose in pot. I bought some pots form home depot, 7 gallon pot in black color, they get really hot in direct sunlight, where did you get those white pots from? Buying white pots is smart idea. ( THANKS SO MUCH)

Ceres - those are such lovely roses!!! I especially love your Bathsheba!!! Oh my!!

Carol! thank you so much!! im so happy with how they turned out on their first year, so many blooms!!! i think the pot makes all the difference as it gives them the ideal environment to break out of dormancy and grow! none of my roses last year had this many buds on their first flush!

kate, they are target!! 15 each, they are self watering too. i kept the bottom for now as the roses are young. here is the link

https://rstyle.me/cz-n/e7eq7zb48gx

Oh my gosh Ceres!! Your roses are so beautiful and so are your pictures! Your garden must be to die for. We have similar taste in roses and share many same ones, and I’m just looking at your pictures wondering how on earth you managed to make them look this good. Especially when you say they’re only in their second year!
I can’t believe how big your pearly gate is. I have her too, also now in her second year, but only about one third of the size of yours.

Ceres, Love your ABE too! He just started blooming in my gardens…love the peachy-pink.

@CeresMer Zone 7a NJ, hi, Ceres, thanks for the info, I saved the link and will a few of these awesome pots in the future, Abe Darby look so elegant and beautiful. its on my list now.