the last one... maybe Papa Hemeray? http://www.roguevalleyroses.com/product_info.php?products_id=1726 or maybe Dortmund? If you can tell, I pinched off the other blooms, but there were five on that cluster there. http://www.roguevalleyroses.com/product_info.php?products_id=549 I only went through the ones RVR had with photos though. I'm inclined to think you're right about the orange middle one being "Federico Casas". The few photos online seem similar to it,... and I didn't see any other roses of that color on RVR,... though they dont have a photo of Federico Casas on their website, so it could be that I'm missing some unpictured ones. It's too bad that I love dark red, yellow, white and pink roses but aren't a fan of bright red roses...! so I'm not sure where I can put these. Maybe I can regift them to a friend or something who likes orange and red. The first rose is a medium shrub, not a miniature or a more groundcovery rose, so I'd say that it's not Pink Pet, simply because I've seen White Pet which had much smaller more tightly packed flowers than whatever this rose is. (This rose is about the same size as a Iceburg bush) .... so MAYBE Sexy Rexy? I don't know!

Gee Devon, that was much easier than I expected. It looks like you are right on I checked HMF. It appears that New Dawn is a grandparent of this too. Thank you so much. Maybe someone else will pipe in and second it, then we would be sure. Yes Victoria is a very unique city, especially beautiful in the summer time. We live an hour and 40 minutes north of Victoria, east coast of the island, facing Vancouver. We live in Lantzville, a village/town (just been made a municpality) Right on the border of Nanaimo's exciting north end shopping and large malls - kewell to be so close. Here is a page that may interest you. Here is a link that might be useful: Nanaimo

well - that is the only photo I have - we just bought the house and the plants have now all been cut down! :( It is quite thorny - there are 6 or 7 rose plants in the backyard and this one seems to be the thorniest. The house is from the '50s. It must be a repeat-bloomer because it was blooming in late September before it got trimmed down. I think the plant grew to about 4 feet or so. I was told they are hybrid teas. Is that correct? Thanks for any info! :)

Thanks jasmine. I was busy with Halloween stuff but just now answered it. Thanks for your info. The IG girl answered back thru email and still said they told her Perfume but didn't bring up the grower so I'm just gonna drop it with her. :((. I really felt if I could get the growers name I could contact them.