We installed the GE 30" induction cooktop over a Kitchen Aid wall oven. The instructions indicate it should be installed over a GE oven only---but the Kitchen Aid actually allows for more air movement based upon how it's configured. Anyway, no problems so far (granted it's only been a week...) and I absolutely LOVE the induction, the sleek look (we, too, have no frame, we like the sleekness of the cooktop right on the granite) and the responsiveness (I think the responsiveness is better than my gas stove)! Good luck in your decision! Sue

Hi Mary, Are you considering the 30" slide-in ranges? There's some other discussions about the Bosch Benchmark vs GE (comments by some with the single oven, others by those with two ovens). A recent thread (begun in February, new posts are still being added) is here: [Induction Ranges[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/induction-ranges-dsvw-vd~5623487). Both Bosch and GE have hobs for 6 and 11 inch pans, additionally, the GE has an 8" size whereas the Bosch has a 9". The 6" for the Bosch is in the front right, the GE has the 6" element in the back on the right. Some prefer the larger hob in the front so you don't have to lift a large pot of water further before removing it from the cook top. Presumably the 6" pot is lighter, even when filled, even though you may be using it every day or far more often than the 11" hob. The GE 30" slide-in (Cafe series) has knobs on the front (numbered but you can turn it to ANYwhere in between the numbers as well) whereas the Bosch is by touch control on top (I believe they have half-stops, giving you greater control). The Bosch configuration may put the elements a little further back than the GE hobs. It is true that if you inadvertently touch the oven control panel on the front of the GE, the panel will activate (unless you lock it), an inconvenience as you are reaching for a pot of the top of the stove. However, if you do nothing (instead of clicking 'cancel'), it will automatically turn back off or revert to an oven setting if you were also using the oven at the time. Bosch has a count-down timer for each hob along with a kitchen timer and a stop watch (count-up timer). The GE's two timers are not delegated to each hob, but act for the unit. They beep a warning at the one minute mark. They do not count in seconds. Only the GE has a warming hob (not induction). The cookware doesn't have to be the exact size of the hob, so a 9" pan would work on an 8" GE hob, as would a 10" or 12" pan work on the 11" hob. The cookware has to be reasonably close in size; I don't think you can use a 6" pot on the 11" hob. The current flexzone on the Bosch looks more flexible than the GE synchronized elements (I believe they are on the left for both companies). This may be a new innovation? I don't recall it being that flexible when I was looking for a range. Whether the (Bosch) flexzone or (GE) synchronization is worthwhile depends on whether you might be using a griddle or something considerably larger than one element. When I was trying to decide between them I made up a chart comparing some features, you can see that (from Nov. 2018) and the discussions that ensued here: [GE or Bosch Slide-In Range discussion[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/ge-or-bosch-slide-in-induction-range-dsvw-vd~5548823). I found it very frustrating that I could not find either the Cafe or the Bosch on display to actually see for myself. However, you have great people here who own these and are able to answer specific questions. You can also try to get an idea from videos. Both have oven control panels with blue lighting that should be easy for you to see, however, you will have a better idea after seeing a video if you can't see one connected to electricity in person. There is one that shows the Bosch, cook top and oven controls and oven here Bosch Benchmark Induction and Over the Range Microwave (the first 3:40 of 5:19 pertain to the induction range). You should be able to find a similar video put out by GE showing the features of the Cafe or whatever one you are interested in. You might find it helpful to look through the specs and manuals for each. The Bosch manual is here: Bosch induction range instruction manual (800 series and Benchmark) and their spec sheet (showing locations of each size hob) is here: Bosch spec sheet. Also see the GE Cafe manual and GE Cafe specs. Keep reading and researching and hopefully you'll be able to narrow down which trade-offs are more important to you. Hope that helps some.

@wdccruise you are incorrect about having to select an element first. Here's how it actually works. You set the pan/pot on the element, then turn the stovetop on. The stove automatically senses where the pot/pan is, so all you have to do is select your temperature. To change the temp, you just select the number you wish. If you have more than one pot on the stove, then yes, you'll have to select what element you wish to use for that second pot. There is a grid on the stove to select which burner, very easy to use. There is no slide of any kind, so I don't know what you mean by" virtual slider." Bosch's temperature settings are numbers listed on a linear line. You tap which number or 1/2 number matches the temperature you desire. IMO it's much to-do about nothing using a touchpad rather than knobs. And knobs are harder to clean. However, Bosch is switching to knobs for its range. I think because people are having a hard time adjusting to the idea of a range that doesn't have knobs. I remember being so confused by my old electric range, trying to figure out which knob I should choose for which burner. In the 20 years I owned that range it was never intuitive and so-so many times my husband and I turned on the wrong burner. The Bosch range is totally intuitive, not hard to comprehend, and we've found that the touchpad becomes automatic for the user in no time at all. Plus Bosch has a cook timer for each hob, which automatically turns the element off when it's done--I never would have dreamed how much I would use that feature. My countertops are perfectly level, because we made sure they were when we installed the cabinets.

@peanutmiracle I purchased a sheet of silicone and used various-size cans and a small bowl to make different-sized circular pads, which I then cut out. I place three or four pads down to support the edges of a pot, or I will use a single bigger pad for my tea kettle (because the single pad can be hidden underneath the kettle and left out on the cooktop full-time. Otherwise, the pads are placed on the stovetop only when I am using a hob. There is a theory that the pads could serve to lengthen the lifetime of a hob's performance, because the hot pot is not making direct contact with the stovetop, keeping the stovetop cooler. I mostly use the Hunts tomato sauce size. I use the biggest one for my tea kettle. Another advantage to using the pads is it helps you eyeball where to place the pot once the pads are in place. I see the link no longer offers the blue color--in case you are wondering. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SZM2QDX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1