Which speed oven to buy—Miele, Wolf or Bosch

3 years ago

i am redoing my kitchen in my country house and need to figure out which speed oven to buy. I will have a 30 inch wall oven installed under my induction cooktop, as I have little wall space to work with. (Please do NOT comment on installing a wall oven under counter. as I am not seeking advice on that.. I also do not want a steam oven for other reasons.). The under counter oven will be the primary oven but i need a second oven, which i will install in the island. I need the oven to act as a microwave too. In my NYC apartment, I have a Miele speed oven which I use as my primary oven since my range has a 36 oven and it takes so long to preheat.

I like the M wonder whether it is the best choice again. I need the oven to be 24”, not 27” or 30”. I don’t use the speed functions very often, but I believe that I need a 240v rather than a 120v. I’m not 100% sure of that though. The Miele is expensive and not so easy to clean. As i said, indont really use the speed functions i

So, in sum, which is the best 24” oven which is a really good convection oven and microwave? I am not sure that the Bosch 500 is sufficiently powered, so maybe it’s between the Wolf and Miele.

For what it’s worth, I am leaning toward the Bosch for the cooktop and primary oven. I have a Bosch induction range now (bought in 2016) and I like the oven, so I’m not sure it pays to pay up for the Wolf. I don’t care about matching handles.

i will buy a SZ fridge and wine cooler, so maybe the Wolf speed oven could be part of a package. I will probably use my existing Miele DW and just put a panel on it, so no other Miele purchases are in my plans.

Any thoughts appreciated.

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3 years ago

I understand your concern about only having space for at most two ovens. That's not really something anybody can argue with. The choice between speed oven and CSO is similarly personal. I think as far as I am concerned, I'd probably would err on the side of the CSO. But then my cooking style is probably different from other people's and the microwave isn't quite as important to me. So, I can see why you would prefer the speed oven.

I wouldn't be overly worried about well water. So, don't use that as your deciding factor. It's not as if the CSO used large amounts of water. It's only a few cups of water each day, if even that. The bigger worry would be water quality. You don't want overly hard water or water with a lot of sediments. So, depending on your water quality, you might need additional filtering. Also, you do not want to use reverse osmosis. I learned from this forum that most appliances need a minimum amount of minerals and RO water can actually cause damage because of the complete lack of minerals.

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delray33483
3 years ago
A MW only needs 120v to run. Any real convection oven needs 240v

Looking at the specs the Bosch looks fine- especially if you have some of their appliances and like their functionality. I had the Miele (with the knobs) in another house and liked it - we actually used it more than the 30 inch oven that it was stacked with when it was just the two of us. You are correct that the downside is cleaning. Some of that is a function of the cavity size (splatter) and the exposed pieces inside. Don't know if Bosch has that

I don't think there is any downside to any of the 3 choices. Some of it is price. I would also look to see how easy it is to operate the controls at a 2 ft height. I wouldn't want to have to kneel on the floor every time to use the unit. Maybe the Miele knob would be easier to run if I was standing?
nycbluedevil_gw
Original Author
3 years ago
Thanks Delray. I bought the Miele speed oven with the knobs now for that very reason, but totally forgot since I have not been living in the city since the pandemic started. I thought I checked the specs on the Bosch and it was 120v but will check again.
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nycbluedevil_gw
Original Author
3 years ago
Yup the Bosch only has 120v. So it’s between the Wolf and Miele. And the knobs may make the difference!
delray33483
3 years ago
if its 120 I wouldn't buy it - just not enough power
M
3 years ago
I think the Wolf has a rotating platter for the microwave. I always disliked that, even if it is super common these days. I much prefer the way that my Miele speed oven works. Would absolutely make the same decision again.

I also would always get a CSO again. But you said you are not interested. So, that's fair enough.
dan1888
3 years ago
I'd research to see if there are any ways to answer your objections to a Miele CSO.
nycbluedevil_gw
Original Author
3 years ago
Thanks M. I only have room for two ovens. And I am on well water, and am loathe to increase the number of appliances that have to use water. I would love the steam oven for the way I hear it works to reheat food—we rarely steam vegetables because that would be way too healthy for our crowd, the Blue Star gas range and Miele speed oven work great for me in the city, so I figured that an electric oven and speed oven will be the best combination for us.
Fori
3 years ago
Are you sure you need a speed oven at all then?

If my Miele speed oven dies, I'm gonna replace it with a 24" regular convection oven. (Does anyone still make those?)

I do have my speed oven in a cabinet that can house a 30" oven but it's hard to beat a 24"er for preheating. Range oven is for big stuff.
nycbluedevil_gw
Original Author
3 years ago
I have spent some time researching CSOs this afternoon. They do sound appealing. And the fact that they don’t have to be plumbed is a big plus. My water is treated by a professional (we have very low pH) but unlike our NYC water, the water here leaves spots which drive me crazy and I am sure that the water reduces the life of my appliances.

So I think the on,y downside to the CSO is that I wouldn’t have room for the microwave. Right now it’s in the pantry. In the renovation, I want it in the island. And I already have a wine fridge in the island and a prep sink. So I just have no more room. I don’t know that I am willing to part with the microwave.

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