Thank you, Ingrid! I haven't grown HdB in awhile but decided to add her to my striped rose collection. She was always healthier for me than Variegata de Bolgna. As I recall she gave me remontancy, as Zephirine Drouhin does, but in our current climate, who knows? Time will tell. Maybe I'll just enjoy the foliage! :-) I also prefer DdB's flower to many modern stripes. I am taking a gamble on the striped Tea, Madame Driout. I've never grown her, but decided to give her whirl as one of my few roses in that class. I've only seen one bloom, but it was intriguing--darker pink than HdB and globular as it unfurled. Really quite pretty! I may attempt to post a photo (I shudder at the thought of trying) of DdB, MD and Clotilde Soupert in a vase. I hope Cecil is continuing to heal! Carol

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Kate, almost everything I do on my phone is a exercise in frustration. Web sites don't work well, neither do search engines. Sometimes I try to do things on the web when I'm in my recliner but almost always end up getting up and going to the computer to get it done right. Landlines work way better for calls, though not portable. But frankly, I don't want people bugging me when I'm out and about unless I'm going to the store and my wife or kids call me to add to the list. My phone is mainly for texting and that is all. Regrettably I've had to use the phone part more since this stupid lock down to call a business [medical] to tell them I'm here. It is silly in my case anyway since I can't wear a mask [nor would I if I could]. I'm glad it works for you, though.

I can't currently post a new message here from my iphone - it doesn't just post without me picking another forum. At one time it would post if I also picked another forum like Test. So I did that a few times. Then for a while this conversations forum appeared in the list so I picked it and that worked. Now it's not there (or I can't find it) and it doesn't post here if I pick Test. I've pretty much given up on posting anything new from my phone. It works reliable on my PC desktop and on my ipad - at least last time I tried it - no need to pick a second forum for a new post.