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Comments (24)viruses cant sustain themselves as i may or may not have said earlyer, they don't feed, they just insert DNA into ur cells, basically goes STOP CODE:MAKE VIRUSES the stop code makes the cell stop doing its normal functions, the the second bit is self explanatiory just in casse anyone was wondering, water birds are more at risk because they leave their feceas in the water and drink it lots, and feed from it. i'm in the UK, an island but home to many migratory birds during summer and winter. we also have high population density. luckily i'v been exposed to basically everyting under the sun. happy dirt, and cat and dog and chicken infused childhood provided you wash your herbs first (i hope you do) the outdoor hers isn't really a problem as far as i can see oh and homeostasis is the controlling of the internal environment, keeping oxygen and heat and water etc. levels stable inside your body, very complex with hormones and monitoring stations and feedback loops scaremongering (especially tabloids) is more of a problem than the virus in my opinion, it puts the populace under stress, increasing our vunerability to infection. oh and on the herbs again UV light "kills" viruses because it destroys nucleic acids (RNA and DNA (and ATP)) rendering the virus noting more than a protien case. as for transmition between people, it probably wont be long as viruses mutate fast, and having had bird flu before wont mean much either i don't think as flu viruses mutate so your no longer immune quite fast. on the plus side if you survived before your obvoiusly capable of surviving so thumbs up keeping birds safe and sound in a basement would possibly work, but theres also te problem that if a significant percentage of the population is gone there will be inbreeding weakening future stock, that and you'd have to make sure that you don't traips any bird poo into the enclosure, that and a host of other problems unfortunatly battery hens are gonna be a major problem though. consider hundreds of possible carriers in filthy dung laden conditions. many opertunities to mutate and for workers to be infected. yet another argument against battery poultry (aside from the obvoius moral ones) hmm i'm posting very long posts atm hope this is clarifies some stuff...See MoreIs anyone taking the H1N1 Pandemic seriously?
Comments (18)Yeah, unfortunately after i took him to the doc's today, my son does have some form of flu, but i don't know if it's swine. They tested with a swab (quick test) but not the blood test. The reason i took him was yesterday he ran a fever suddenly in the afternoon and said his stomach was hurting. Then is morn he complained about sore throat, so i figured it could be a) strep, b) a secondary infection getting going and causing the fever (he was coughing a lot again), or c) flu. The doc wasn't very helpful as to whether he'd had flu all along and it had gotten worse or he'd managed to pick up a flu on top of a cold. Frankly, the doc had terrible bedside manner overall and i hope we don't have to see him again. He just recommended tamiflu, which i'd read really hasn't helped that much, and when i called around, found out was $100. No way we can afford that right now. So he'll have to let it run its course. He was feverish again in afternoon, but by eve it was gone again. So we'll just wait and see how he's doing. He definitely felt better today with the extra rest until the fever kicked in again, and even then was better than yest. I hate him missing school- because of the block schedule he's on every day he misses is like missing 2 days. Real good way to get behind very fast. To make matters worse, he has some poison ivy from when he felt better the other day & was out weed whacking. Part of it's on his neck because he was scratching skeeter bites. So he looks a fright, poor kid. And tomorrow's our anniversary, which we had planned to spend together, alone, but looks like that's not happening. Oh well. I just want him to get better. So far (KNOCK ON WOOD) nobody else has shown any signs/symptoms at all. Dottie- i would love to see them do some research on those adenoviruses. i remember reading about that but for some reason no one else did. I was beginning to think i'd made it up. people look at you like you're crazy when you tell them they discovered that a virus can make you fat....See MoreFlu shot or No flu shot that is the question?
Comments (46)i am on the fence as to whether it is good to have the H1N1 shot or not. BTW my background is a BS in biology w/ a specialization in both plant sciences and medical microbiology (taught at IU med school). i have a special interest in unusual viruses. i do not even read information about medical things until i look at credentials and personal opinions mean nothing to my scientifically trained mind. i am interested only in verifiable info thru proven scientific routes (CDC, AMSRID, WHO, some universities w/ elite medical schools only etc..) there is soooooo much incorrect non-scientific info out there it's sad what people think and know on issues like this. it truly doesn't matter for most people since they are only making a limited # of doses (enough for 10% of the population i believe) and the ranking for getting it starts w/ pregnant women, then children, adults under 40 then anyone over 40 w/ pre-existing lung/heart conditions making them susceptible to it. that is the order of risk for death also. it will also be interesting to see how much this shot costs, i'm gonna guess more than most would pay out of pocket, i understand it will not be covered by most insurances. would i get it given i have asthma and am 40? i will wait and see...DH & i have had several flu's this yr (more than any previous yr infact) and believe we may have already had it, so i'm willing to wait it out. i have had flu shots in the past after getting a B version of Hong Kong flu and getting extremely sick in my 20's but i don't get it every yr. this is too new of a vacccine for me, now next yr after i see how things go this fall/winter i might. ~ liz...See MoreOT.......1918 Influenza pandemic
Comments (24)One tiny town in the western US decided to quarantine their town since by then the pandemic was raging and there seemed to be danger in leaving or coming in. However, the flu came anyway....via the postman and mail delivery. There was speculation that perhaps the postman was a carrier ( no pun intended). This from research : The first wave of the 1918 pandemic occurred in the spring and was generally mild. The sick, who experienced such typical flu symptoms as chills, fever and fatigue, usually recovered after several days, and the number of reported deaths was low. However, a second, highly contagious wave of influenza appeared with a vengeance in the fall of that same year. Victims died within hours or days of their symptoms appearing, their skin turning blue and their lungs filling with fluid that caused them to suffocate. In just one year, 1918, the average life expectancy in America plummeted by a dozen years. It’s unknown exactly where the particular strain of influenza that caused the pandemic came from; however, the 1918 flu was first observed in Europe, America and areas of Asia before spreading to almost every other part of the planet within a matter of months. Despite the fact that the 1918 flu wasn’t isolated to one place, it became known around the world as the Spanish flu, as Spain was one of the earliest countries to be hit hard by the disease. Even Spain’s king, Alfonso XIII (1886-1931), contracted the flu. One unusual aspect of the 1918 flu was that it struck down many previously healthy, young people–a group normally resistant to this type of infectious illness–including a number of World War I (1914-18) servicemen. In fact, journalist Gina Kolata has reported that more U.S. soldiers died from the 1918 flu than were killed in battle during the war. Forty percent of the U.S. Navy was hit with the flu, while 36 percent of the Army became ill, notes Kolata in her book on the subject. Although the death toll attributed to the 1918 flu is often estimated at 20 million to 50 million victims worldwide, other estimates run as high as 100 million victims. The exact numbers are impossible to know due to a lack of medical record-keeping in many places. What is known, however, is that few locations were immune to the 1918 flu–in America, victims ranged from residents of major cities to those of remote Alaskan communities. Even President Woodrow Wilson (1856-1924) reportedly contracted the flu in early 1919 while negotiating the Treaty of Versailles, which ended World War I....See More- 5 years agolast modified: 5 years ago
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