What Would Be a Perfect Fall Rose?
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What About Planting Roses In Fall In Central Maryland??
Comments (9)Thanks, everyone, for the encouragements to plant now if my soil is ready! Connie - from reading this board over the past several months I was led to your blog and discovered all you are up to just down the road from me. Back in the spring I think you were going to be giving a talk that I even considered attending --- but I didn't. My spring was very unexpectedly interrupted by my husband having to do a business trip to Hawaii, so I spent all of May and part of June with him there. This definitely set me back time wise in my yard work and I'm just getting back into it. (I'm only complaining a little bit). My new house is surrounded by woods, and I don't have very many sunny spots available to grow the "thousands" of roses I'd like to. I have basically a couple of spots in the front to greet my visitors, and two in the back - one smaller one (100 sq ft) is already "gardenized", and waiting, and the other "main" spot is the one I've been working on, and it's prominently visible from my back windows. It backs up to the woods, but gets full southern sun shining on it. It's been weeds and unkept, so I've been getting rid of the overgrowth and bringing in truckloads of top soil and compost. It's about 350 sq. ft, with about that much more available when/if I want to spread the borders later on. My main concern - other than getting enough sun - has been deer. They act like our very own outdoor pets. I've been experimenting with Liquid Fence on the other deer food plants in the garden, which has been working well ... and I just bought Sweeny's dried blood disc-things, but haven't put them out yet. I'm kinda scared about this aspect of wanting to have a yard full of roses. QUESTION (to all who have masses - hundreds or more - of roses): When you plant so many - the DA garden you planted last year,and your field of roses - do you put thought into "what goes where" design wise (co-ordinating colors? sizes? types?)? Or do you just "plant", and it all just looks great ---- because they ARE roses after all! I've bought these so far: Therese Bugnet (hoping to put them in some of my semi-sun places) Living Easy Buff Beauty 1 Crepesecule 1 Garden Sun 1 Compassion Since Heirloom is having a free shipping sale right now, I took the opportunity to order these, and they are on their way to me: Easy Does It Peace (Have mostly gotton away from HT, but this is a special love of mine) Martin Frobisher Heritage Julia Child (simply based on so many recommending it) Others I plan on getting first thing next year are: Borderer Belinda's Dream Bonica Well Being I ordered 1 - 3 of each, to "try". As I figure out which ones work best here in the yard I hope to follow up by ordering more for mini mass plantings. (Also - I am afraid of the deer overtaking my plants and best efforts). Back in the late '90s I first started growing roses - all were showy HT. I got my feet wet with them -- and learned some basics about fertilizer, blackspot, JAPANESE BEETLES!, etc. But, we moved away from that house soon after, and weren't living where I could have my own gardens. Now I"m resettled, and hope to bring Rose Love back into my life. Thanks for asking! (For my shady areas I'm concentrating on planting either Rhododendrons or Hydrangea)....See MoreRose is arriving in the fall -- now what?
Comments (1)Susan, you want to plant in late fall so it stays dormant, but before the ground freezes. Do any soil prep before the ground gets sodden with fall rains. Then you just plant, water to settle, and mound it up, just as you would do in spring....See MoreAntique Rose Emporium Fall Festival of Roses
Comments (17)Actually Sue, I am intending to come out west again within a few months. I was in California in June/July of 2006 for a week or so, and had a blast! I had wanted to walk 'neath those stately redwoods since I first saw a film about them in elementary school, a long LONG time ago! Since I have been there in summer, I am shooting for a winter or early spring visit next time. I would love to meet some of my California rose friends while I am there this time! Allison...See MoreNew to roses - what to do in Fall and when to prune?
Comments (4)Greetings sweet_pea - I am pretty new to this forum! - I have been growing miniature roses and other roses for a while, BUT just from reading the posts there are far more knowledgeable people than I. Also, some people tend their roses more carefully than I do, I just do what I think more or less as basic care. Soooooooo: 1) Don't be intimidated by what seems to be complicated rose care. I may be wrong, but I am going to guess that the roses you inherited are probably some basic hybrid teas or climbers that the "average" homeowner plants, and maybe fertilized every now and again (that's what I inherited from a previous owner). Although possibly you inherited some real gems if the former owner was a gardener, and it really is worth bringing neglected bushes back most of the time. You won't really know until they get a little care and flower, unless you can identify the bushes - did the previous owners leave any plant markers behind? 2) There are various opinions on pruning and when, but I follow what seems to be standard advice - this time of year don't prune at all unless you are taking off dead growth. Also, your climber/rambler is handled differently than a bush! Pruning encourages new growth, which is soft, so leave that until spring. In the spring, when the buds swell, is when you shape the bush. Here is a link on spring pruning for "bush" roses: http://www.rosemania.com/Basic_Pruning.htm Some folks living in high wind areas will shorten really long canes if they are whipping around in the winter wind. For climbers, here is a link on pruning: http://www.rosebuddies.com/prun_climb.html. I am not sure what to do with a rambler (if that is what you have) My best guess though, is whatever "climber" you have, if the plant is doing well and you are in doubt about pruning - don't! Also don't fertilize until spring, as again you want the bushes to go dormant and get a rest, and not produce new growth. But always cut off dead canes, they are not going to come back after all (: 2) Winterizing - for me, I just follow what seems to be standard advice - AFTER the first hard freeze I mulch 4 inches thick. The point is to maintain the ground temperature Some people don't winter protect at all, others in severe areas use rose cones and other kinds of protection. In the spring, you can cut back winter-killed canes to healthy wood. In any event, it sounds like your bushes have been living through everything up to now. 3) Fertilizer - well, there are all kinds, but if you Miracle_gro in spring, again after the first flowers or flush, and once more mid-summer, you can get by. I never fertilize after September. That's the most basic care - roses are heavy feeders and appreciate dressings of compost, fish meal, banana peels dug into the ground, fish heads in the ground, mushroom compost, coffee grounds, through the growing season - you may fall in love with roses as we all do, and the more care you give, the more they respond. A lot of the folks here have really interesting fertilizers and you can learn a lot. 4) I've read a lot and there are books that contradict one another, but for beginners I think the Ortho (as in the pesticide) book on roses that you can get in most bookstores and at Home Depot is a good start - easy to read and completely illustrated, and not too expensive - of course, if you search the Net there are lots of articles to sort through. My best quick advice - there will be more for you to do in spring and summer starting with the spring pruning, and come back to the forum often!...See MoreK S 7b Little Rock (formerly of Seattle)
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