I think it's still good, since it's unopened. There is a fall-off, every year that the seed ages. And just work around it. If the fall off is ten percent a year, then 90% of the seed would germinate the first year, and then 80% the second year, and 70% the third year. There's no real point in planting five year old seed. But yours, being a year or two old, should be fine to use. I would not throw it away as useless.

You can visit Georgiaturf.com to take a look at the selections commonly grown in your area and what their ups and downs are. Some of the more desirable types of grasses are only sodded. Like St. Augustine and Zoysia. Do you know what you have?

Well, I like this forum! I rarely post, consider myself a great cook but am far from fancy or traditional with my cooking. I've gotten great results from postings when needed and have not been insulted once. Hey, not bad! I enjoyed reading this topic especially since I have a great deal of trouble using packaged foods due to sodium content. I DO use packaged foods though! I've never made my own yoghurt--never even tried to. Same with butter, cream cheese, aged cheese (I have made paneer by heating milk and adding lime juice), pasta and that is all I can think of that I need packaged food for. I've made lots of things by just trying it out. Ketchup wasn't that hard, no-sodium tomato paste, vinegar, garlic and onion powder (actually, I like the dehydrated granules), black pepper, cumin, dash of lemon juice, dash of water. I just read the bottle to get an idea of what went in the stuff. And, yes, I buy the packaged no-salt ketchup quite often. So quick and easy! There is no way I'm going to pay for packaged dressing; I make my own even though I almost always just use straight balsamic. My guy makes a great vegan Caesar dressing using nutritional yeast, almond meal, lemon juice, vinegar, no-salt stone ground mustard and an unbelievable amount of fresh garlic. Think of all the oil we are avoiding this way! I do love olive oil though~ Canned soups are a no-go mainly because of the salt. I can't actually taste the can but sometimes I can taste the plastic when I buy things in plastic bottles. We made our own "power bars" for the first time a few weeks ago. We had made granola bars and similar things before but never with the intent to get protein, carbs and low calories all in one bar. They are great for hiking! Yesterday, my guy made bagels from scratch for the first time, just for me as they had no salt and almost zero sodium. Did you know that a regular sesame bagel has over 600mg sodium?! The ones he made were topped with black sesame seeds and tasted very good. They were missing that salty taste but, oh well. I think one of the biggest factors with packaged foods is that they are very inexpensive, especially mixes and things like rice a roni or hamburger helper. They can also make things go very quickly in the kitchen for those who have limited amounts of time to feed entire families. There are lots of things we make that cost more than buying pre-made but there are also lots of savings involved in making things ourselves. We may not be rich but we make the effort to allow a good food budget so we can eat as much natural and organic things as possible. We try to stay away from preservatives but that is hard to do with packaged foods. I'm pretty darned impressed by some of the things people make on the board. Pickled veggies and other home-canned items are the most intriguing to me. It was a good read. Thanks, Jennifer

Pre-em actually kills the seed when it starts to grow right? If that's the case then that may be a good option. Maybe also water to get any that still geminate and then dry those out like PSU suggested, and maybe also rake those seedlings out fe soil. May have to repeat in spring. What are the chances there are still viable k31 seeds hanging around next fall. This guy has restricted your overseeding capability, but for how long? JC, I over seeded my fescue lawn once with K31, heavily. It overpowered everything else and was only one of two cultivars to mostly survive that years VA Beach summer with no irrigation (along with some kind of preexisting creeping fescue that only went dormant). As an old single variety it may be susceptible to disease but for me it was extremely hardy. It also makes for a nice lush yard when mowed kind of high. Perfectly fine in my opinion but most yard nuts would certainly prefer a finer blade. I think it looks better as a monostand than st. Augustine.