I sincerely apologize for the duplicate. I felt that the title needed to incidate that I had posted pictures of my own citrus leaf problems so I posted again thinking I could delete the original thread. I did not mean to cause a problem on the forum. Kim

yg / Mimi / Janice: Thank you for input & Janice I'll tell you what I did to keep this plant alive over the winter, but first: 1) I agree with you yg, I do believe what I've got is Glowing Embers/Alpengluhen. I've gone to umpteen sites to verify & it sure looks like you're correct :-) 2) Thanks Mimi for taking a stab at helping me ID this. 3) Janice: You're probably going to not believe this, since you say you've had no success over-wintering your hydrangea...but here's the whole story--maybe more than you want to know...lol The lady took the plant out of it's pot because it was too heavy for her to transport to my house--I also got the rest of the dirt in another trash bag & the big plastic pot it had been living in. She lives in an apartment so she had no intention of planting it outside. Now, this will probably really "bug" you...I left the plant in the trash bag for I can't remember how many weeks and the darn thing looked just fine. I thought it was a hibiscus plant, and though I've nothing against them, I wasn't even sure I wanted to keep the plant. So...there it sat for weeks in the bag. Every now and then I poured some water over the dirt/root ball. I finally felt guilty of how I was treating it, and JAMMED it into a container I had close by--the same container you see in my photo above. It sat in the garage and only ocassionally did I water it. This plant must be a wonderfully hardy cultivar because it was starting to throw out buds in February--and it was still in the dark garage! I have been wrestling with whether to put it into a nicer & larger container (I'm becoming very addicted to container gardening and beautiful looking containers), or to put it in the ground. But I'd better make my mind up very soon as our weather is getting hotter each day and I know this plant can't stay cramped like this much longer. (I'm watering it twice a day now as it is.) There...that's my secret Janice . Maybe you've just been trying to over-winter less hardy varieties. I see you're in Zone 7, so your temps certainly are quite similar to mine year round. Claudia P.S. I LOVE this plant :-)

Wowsers garden mist. this showed up in my -thread feeds- to the right of the GW screen. Me likes Purple Very Very much !

You can plant them all if you consider winter protecting the macrophylla cuttings when they go dormant in the Fall. But the cuttings looked rather small for growing outside yet. As for trees, I would ask locally at a plant nursery what shade trees are in stock that do not have a shallow root system and that could be used to provide shade (describe or show pics of the spot) so they can give good ideas based on measurements you supply. It is hard to predict if the cuttings will perform fine in your location compared to your friend as your soil, sunlight and watering regime may differ from your friend's. But, you can simply try. I was once unsure where to grow some hydrangeas so I placed them, pot and all, in the location I was considering and grew them there for a whole year. I had to tweak the spot because they were not getting enough water once and then again when the summer sun was hitting them through mid afternoon (that is a no-go over here). Then I planted them in the Fall.