Crown Princess Margareta or Teasing Georgia for a east wall in zone 6
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Comments (8)karima, sorry got busy on the hosta forum and missed the responses. It should root very easily from cuttings, but I need to check if it is patented. That's all I'll say publicly, don't need any more now unless I lose one. My plants came from Jackson and Perkins, first from them for roses, and I think they sent me quality plants but roots not so huge that I had to dig bigger holes than I did. Can't wait to see if they'll start shooting up some basals. Doubt they will sucker. My tiller is still in the shop, and it's looking worse out there every day. I strained my back clearing and planting hostas on my terrace and have to take it easy, today seems better. Otherwise I'd just start whacking w/my hand weeding/cultivating tools out there, very frustrating. If I get anything worth looking at, I'll post photos when it's going better. Doggone sawfly got a bunch of my roses already before I had a chance to apply the Bayer, kind of afraid to work with it and have to measure with something that will never be used for food, etc., etc., plus you're supposed to cover all your skin except neck/face, and my sprinkling can leaks. I wasn't going to use it on those new CPM's this year, but as many of my other roses as I could manage. And I dread doing it. I'm noticing that my roses with leaves that tend to be shiny are clean so far so maybe there is a clue there. I've got some lace handkerchief iris waiting, some cerastium?, purple perennial veronica or sage, 3 once bloomers I rooted for the ends, and oh some pretty Color Parade asian lilies which I'm not sure how to work in to make it look like it's just not slopped together. I spaced the plants 5' apart exactly because I had hoped to do something like Robert in VA has done with his Mottisfont? design, but help is hard to come by and can't set posts myself or attach rebar arches. Then when I do find help, I have to prioritize and only ask done what I absolutely cannot do myself. I've got winter sowed catmint, rudbeckia, crazy daisy, white foxglove, to mix in there, the foxg & crazy d may go to fill in the front. That's the part I'm not so good at, design. If those do well and look right, then just other fill in type things as the mood or ideas strike me, may use some annuals this year but prefer to keep it all perennials or self seeders. I've gone nutso over Teasing Georgia, but I am simply out of sunny spots without chopping up more lawn which will make my yard too patchy & more work....See MoreCrown Princess Margareta
Comments (19)Hi My CPM is 2 yrs old.Last summmer she stayed close to the ground...this yr she is awesome!!! I've had numerous buds and the branches are enormous for a rose this young. I've had very little disease and the JPs didn't damage her either. Blooms do droop but are beautiful. I'm not home right now but I'll post a pic tonight. I love this rose...It is planted near the corner of our fence and has extended now to both sides of the fence...I was going to arbor it but I think she will climb both sides and do well. Undoubtedly this summmer has been the best I've seen in years for roses of all sorts. We have had rain and cooler temps than usual. I guess the horrible winter storm we had here in Ky last winter may have crippled the JPs too.I've had some leaf damage but left them alone. Another rose you may love is Evelyn. Very fragrant and I planted it in front by porch and window. She's extending out a long way now and I hope to train her to the brick to climb around the window.I have a grandaughter with that name! My Teasing Georgias are huge!! But man...what an octopus!! We built a large lattice arbor and looks like they are going to climb it AND the fence corners near it. I can't seem to tie all the branches right to get them to go to the arbor and I don't want to damage them. I've had tons of blooms and little disease. I sure hope they come back well next year..I've heard these TG's can be difficult. Anyway....you might like them too...they are beautiful and fragrant!! I planted Roxanne plants under them and they are small but lovely with bluish purple blooms all summer...just a suggestion.Good Luck!!!...See MoreHow would 2 Crown Princess Margareta's do climbing on a NJ arbor?
Comments (26)Your Desdemona was mislabelled?! What is she then?! Now I feel great I didn't go get your Margareta yesterday, even though it was very tempting :-) I don't think I saw Golden Celebration at Dearborn. They have the poet's wife, Graham Thomas, and a couple of TGs in the yellow hue. Baker nursery was closed for good (bad). In my failing attempt to find Jude the Obscure several weeks ago, I drove to the address listed for Corner Copia Farm Market , but ended up in a field. I then called and was told they weren't there for four years! I went to Williams Nursery in Westfield last Thursday, and found they only had three or four pots left. They also raised their price to $49. I was so disappointed that I didn't pay attention to the names. You may call them and ask. They do pick up their phone and check stock for you based on color. Good luck! PS. I am new to gardening too. but I think you should be able to plant one rose for now. I planted TG on one side of my trellis, with Eden on another. Now I wish I had put a clematis on the other side or even morning glory, as Clematis will grow faster so I don't have to wait several years for my trellis to be filled....See MoreViability of Crown Princess Margareta in a pot?
Comments (23)Shay: David Austin catalog 2019 offered some own-roots, but I look through David Austin Catalog 2020 .. own-roots are no longer offered through them. From your pic., it's a grafted-rose. If your rose is bought from David Austin, then it's grafted-on-Dr.Huey, and this aggressive root-stock will take over if the bud-union (where the green branches come out) IS NOT BURIED at least 4 inch. below ground. When Dr.Huey takes over, you'll get Dr.Huey blooms (dark-red single-petals) rather than CPM's blooms (yellow/orange). If your roses are bought from Palatine or Hortico, then it's grafted on multiflora, another aggressive root-stock that takes over but produces tiny single-petal white flowers. Dr.Huey's typical trait is tons of blooms in 1st years, but very stingy in 3rd year and latter. My CPM is own-root so the 1st year is whitish-thin-cluster root and was very stingy the 1st year (only 1 bloom & other folks had the same complaint), but as it matures it blooms tons. If you scroll up to the top, the 2nd pic. of my CPM was taken this July 2020. I'm concerned since your bud-union is higher than the soil-level, it should be buried at least 4 inch. below ground to ensure that the root-stock won't take over when the upper branches die through the winter. I had seen roots of my 130 varieties as own-root, plus I root roses from cuttings and own-roots never look chunky & fat & woody like that. I have a few roses grafted-on-Dr.Huey and multiflora, and the grafted-on-Dr.Huey has a longer & fatter stick than multiflora. See pic. below, the bud-union should be buried 4" below soil in cold-zone so the root-stock won't take over when the upper canes die through winter. My experience with Dr.Huey-rootstock in a pot: it doesn't handle acidic rain well when that accumulates in the pot, and will break out in black spots in heavy rain....See More
dianela7analabama
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agobin li
3 years ago
strawchicago z5
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agobin li: Crown Princess Mag. is a HEAVY BLOOMER, thus do well in only 4 hours of sun. I don't grow Teasing Georgia but HQ Gillani (Khalid in Organic rose growing) posts many entire-bush shots in Facebook Fragrant Rose Lovers. He stated that Crown Princess Mag is in his best blooming group in hot & dry and rainy season. He put Teasing Georgia in his group which did not bloom after spring or perform poorly in hot & dry. I enclosed a bush-shot of Teasing Georgia that Khalid grows in Pakistan zone 9 full sun in his best spring flush. He posted many bush-shots of Teasing Georgia that held me back from buying .. it's a wide-spreading shrub, rather than slender climber.
bin li
3 years ago
Bc _zone10b
3 years agoI am new to roses, but I'm in NY and planted close to 40 this Spring. Crown Princess is planted with about 6 hours of sun...so not the sunniest spot in my gardens. But it's afternoon sun and out of all the roses I've planted, it's grown the most and flowered the most in the few months I've had them all. I really love her :)
Like Straw, I have pretty rocky clay soil that I'm trying to better. But Crown Princess seems happy and wouldn't stop blooming until about a week ago. Now it's growing new red leaf branches...basal breaks maybe? I'm not knowledgable enough.
The flowers colors have a lot of variety, from pinkish salmon, to apricot to more pure yellow. It's a really great plant so far, I recommend it out of all the others I've planted. Don't have Teasing Georgia, but I'll be getting more Crown Princess next season for myself :)
Not sure about climbing yet, but it has long canes growing every direction. Going to try and train her up the wall when they get a little sturdier, here are the pictures of the flowers. All of my other roses fade as they age, but more to pure whites. Crown Princess fades to all different beautiful light oranges, yellows and pinks.
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mrslinden
3 years ago
I don't have a lot of experience with either roses because I just planted them both this year, all I can say is Teasing Georgia (pictured) has been blooming constantly (only planted it a few weeks ago) and Crown Princess Margareta has not only given me no blooms... but zero growth period. It's healthy and alive, and it's possible I just missed the first flush when I bought it from a nursery...but still ..come on, I've been watering it faithfully, give me some growth!
mrslinden
3 years agolast modified: 3 years ago
One more thing I'll say about Teasing Georgia that's different from any other roses I bought- The blooms open SO quickly. These are the two open blooms I posted in my other picture, just 12 hours earlier. The flushes come and go like mad.strawchicago z5
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3 years ago
Dave5bWY
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoI grow them both and like them both very much, but I must admit I like Teasing Georgia a bit more and is one of my top roses. Both repeat about the same now but CPM was slower to repeat it’s first few years. TG is more disease resistant. Both are fragrant but CPM’s fragrance is stronger. My TG is in full sun and so I can’t comment on how it would do in part shade but CPM does well for me in part shade.
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paint girl 6bNJ
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoHi Bin Li, I am new to roses but I happen to live in Central Jersey too, and I have both Teasing Georgia and CPM. TG was planted last summer as a two gallon potted rose. The first flush in June was really beautiful, and now she's covered with buds again. She's on a trellis and gets direct Sun from 8:30 to 2:30. She is scentless to my nose. She gets black spots on the lower part, and I spray.
To my nose, CPM has a stronger scent than TG. I think Generous Gardener is a great choice for you in our area. She didn't bloom much last year, but this year, she's a big girl and put on a spectacular show for me. My deck is infused with the sweet rose scent. The only thing I don't like about Generous Gardener is she fades in heat. Now she's completely white. I thought I was getting a pink rose. Generous Gardener gets direct sun light from 9:30 to 3:30. I wish I could give her more. She also has black spot on the lower part.
ac91z6
3 years agobin li
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strawchicago z5