I posted this in another forum, but since the person who dug up this old thread to talk about "gene 6" in multiple forums... In case anyone wants some information about "gene 6"...better/correctly known as "P6"...as it pertains to current discussion based on a study by the EFSA... This is a very wide range of proteins found in virus encoding from HIV to mosaic virus...these proteins are also found in the smoke of burning meat and tobacco. It's a very wide range. In this case, one of the biggest dangers would be a chance encoding to re-invigorate the "dead" version of cauliflower mosaic virus (or P6 residues) that's very commonly used as a carrier string for DNA/RNA insertion that it's inserted into. This could lead to some allergy problems, too, even if it doesn't fully express the mosaic virus but still overlaps enough to express P6 proteins. P6 is a known allergen, though it's not one that everyone is sensitive to. The expression of this gene is highly unlikely, though...and would be regulated to a single (or very small groups) of plants doing this replication rather than entire seed source or a field suddenly replicating mosaic virus or P6 residues. If it is the case that encoding suddenly made it large-scale available it would show up heavily in the research stage and it wouldn't make it out into the consumer market since it's showing inferior/bad genetic expression. One of the biggest parts of GMO research is tossing out 99%+ of everything you're actually trying to create because positive effects of expression aren't stable enough to sell it as seed...or it's showing "bad" expressions. There's a lot of otherwise harmful viruses (to plants or humans) used to insert GMO traits for start/end points into a genetic change that are made inert (and distinctly different) from their original genetic package, but still contain large parts of what makes up the virus, itself. Viruses can easily carry genetic information and they're ideal vehicles for transferring it. The genetic carriers of the virus are merely vehicles. Once you change the "genetic package" inside a virus it's not even what you started with. The "guts" are changed dramatically. If you put a Dodge Neon engine in a Porsche very few people would still consider it a Porsche. That's the level of dramatic change in sequencing going on inside of these packages. You can take certain virus types, depending on what you're trying to achieve, and precisely insert genetic information with start/termination points into existing DNA/RNA...totally turning it's genetic information into something totally different in both makeup and application. Btw, to those with P6 protein sensitivities...this would be a big deal. I'm not trying to knock the research at all. I'm just saying it's overlapping expression would most likely be contained to a very few plants in a field, not widespread. While genetic start/termination points are very good with insertion and replication once stable, nothing is perfect when you're exchanging genes...we see it even natural breeding. The major problem with this particular chain of insertion is the overlapping of the 2 sequences given as example in the paper and what could happen as a consequence of them being genetically linked so closely together...even if there's a very small chance of it happening as defined. It's also worth mentioning we're talking a single virus carrier, not the 100s of types (or the 20-ish most commonly used) carriers. It would also be greatly influenced by the new information inserted, what was cut out, and where the start/termination points overlap (if there is any replication overlap). There's more than 1 way to insert genetic information into virus and the chances of overlap encoding or reversion is different depending on the type of method used.

Glenda, It was a mess, wasn't it? I noticed some of the folks on the Tomato Forum were really getting upset. They must have been having serious withdrawal! Moni, No problem. I was glad to do it. I figured you were out putting miles on the bike. And, by the way, we haven't had a "new grandbaby" update lately. So, be sure to let us know how the little darling is doing. Dawn

My comment were and will be very specific - it's my nature and the nature of my work "I think dadoes has the right idea: A pair of single DD's flanking your sink. As a benefit, the upper DD is quieter than the lower one." DD represents "DishDrawer" and not "Double Dishdrawer". Hence "single DD's" means a single DishDrawer. (Perhaps there will be acronyms DDD and SDD in the future? Ugh.) In which case there is no upper or lower. It's a matter of logic. I do understand the basic difference between the double and single. A lot of it is from your posts (BTW, thank you very much!) and others here and at Epinions (e.g., Epinions, Fisher and PaykelDD-603SS Built-in Dishwasher: Another reason to get the double drawer unit is that the space below the unit (under the single drawer unit) would be wasted space. You can't have a drawer below the unit...it needs a rigid bottom capable of load-bearing weight.) What you say about the two singles certainly makes sense .. but that doesn't mean that it is NECESSARILY true. (What would occupy the upper/lower cabinets might be different owing simply because it is upper/lower. There might be other, unknown reasons.) Frankly, the only reason that I can see why anyone would put a single in a lower position would be the physical support issue. It doesn't make sense ergonomically. I'm in a similar situation as lmhall2000 - not enough room for two singles. I have a DD-603I in the middle of my living room as the kitchen cabinets are being put in.

No idea what is under there until you take those two screws out and look. Clicking sounds like a relay. I don't know exactly what this TV has in it for relays, but it may be a delay relay that turns on certain functions after others are on correctly. Or a protection relay that cuts out if something is wrong. Is this a modern flat screen or a rear projection TV? Can you get a look at the circuit boards? Look for electrolytic capacitors with bulging tops. Flat screens are notorious for this, and it's not expensive to fix if you can solder. Just as a friendly suggestion, you might consider placing all of your posts in the same thread so they stay together.