Does Hippolyte sucker?
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Comments (12)Hi Jim Younger canes flower more easily when pruned than older canes. Old canes might not flower at all if pruned more than 1/4-1/3. I know of albas that are pruned with chain-saw to about a foot every year and still flower (Minette). It is against all the rules in the book, but still it flowers really well. Some rose experts have refused to belive it is Minette until they have taken a sucker and grown it in their own garden. My point is that general rules sometimes can be a bit unreliable. Perhaps you can remove the oldest canes if you decide to prune a lot. For suport I use canes I take from trees growing outside my garden (mostly salix caprea, I don't know what it's called in English). They should be strong enough to hold the longest rose canes in center of your rose, and still not disturb the arching effect of the Hippolyte-canes. I choose straight canes that look strong and long enough, and that leave a natural V-shape-growth at the top. They are hardly visible when the rose has leafed out, if at all. I just stick them in the ground and place the rose-cane in the small V-shape. Best of all I like them better than any thing I find at the garden center and don't cost a thing. Perhaps you can make any use of this. Good luck with your Hippolyte :-)...See MoreVerification request! Does this look like a sucker to you?
Comments (13)I agree with Rebecca till you see if the rose bloom is something other than a typical Iceberg - as Patty says, Dr. Huey will be a dark red and multiflora is a very small white bloom that looks nothing like Iceberg. Just because a cane is new and healthy doesn't make it an undesirable sucker. I don't see any obvious bud union (graft) above the ground, so you've either buried the bud union if it's grafted (meaning the new cane could be from the "good" rose you want) or it's own root and anything from this rose will be good. Well, the knobby bit on the old cane to the left of the first photo could be a bud union but it's not clearly so, and it might be just some old pruning marks. The way to tell a sucker is: a) it grows from below a graft, b) it has noticeably different growth structure from the original canes (e.g. thorny and the rose is supposed to be thornless), or c) it blooms a different color from the original rose. If it's an own root rose, none of these apply - everything that grows, even from the bits of root deep in the ground, would be the rose you want. When these are good growth from the roots of the plant, they're considered "basal breaks" and are part of what make a rose bushy rather than one-cane wonders. Cynthia...See MoreSpeaking of purple/mauve, does anyone grow 'Hippolyte'?
Comments (12)Susan, you're a kindred spirit! Belle de Crecy is gorgeous. I've been giving away roses right and left as I downsize the total number and then filling in with a few more historic purples. If I don't reign myself in, my whole rose garden will be purple! Jeri, thank you for the photos and background. I have Christopher's book, too. I'll have to pull it out to read before bed tonight. It's been a long time. I wonder if "Red Runaround," "Brooks Purple," and 'Hippolyte' of commerce are one and the same. "Red Run" looks like a Gallica/China cross? Paul Barden mentions that "Brooks" may be "Red Run." I wonder if I'll get a "Red Run" or "Brooks" if I order a 'Hippolyte' from Rogue Valley Roses. I should try to locate all three and compare them!...See MoreDoes anyone know if honey locust suckers?
Comments (10)Sounds like black locust to me, it could also be honeylocust but they don't commonly volunteer. Pictures would help confirm. Probably not related to suckering....See Morefig_insanity Z7b E TN
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