Rip out your lawn for nature.
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Are we nuts? Thinking of ripping out all my sod for veggies.
Comments (22)I realize I'm coming late to this party, since the thread has been going for a bit now. I try to put in as many new planting areas each year as I can. Less lawn the better. Last year, when it appeared that gasoline would be maybe $5 to $8 a gallon by now, it was somewhat easier to convince skeptical family members that this was a good thing. It will be somewhat less so this year, but hey, they'll get over it. I'm the one that does all of the outdoor work anyway, so it really shouldn't be a big concern for them. I have my eye this year on an area towards the back of my 2nd acre that's about 80 feet wide by 40 feet long. It's at the top of a hill with fairly sandy, loam soil and a southern exposure, with a slight slope. I do have a bit of a deer problem around here, and I'm considering putting some of my sand-loving, more deer resistant crops like potatos, groundcherries, quinoa, garlic, and tomatillos up there, with drip irrigation and black plastic, so that I can plant some of the more deer vulnerable crops in my lower garden, closer to the house, and fence them off. I'm not at all convinced that the price decline in oil/gasoline is permanent by any means. The theory of "Peak Oil" certainly does explain a lot of the economic turmoil going on around the world. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if gasoline prices climbed right back up there within the next year or two, as crazy as the economic situation seems today. The good news is that I have proven able to grow far more food than I and my immediate family can possibly eat, so I have it to share with others. The bad news on that front is that, last year, I had trouble giving away perfectly good, high-quality produce because I kept encountering an attitude of "we don't like that" or "we don't really cook." I found this rather sad. I would encourage anyone interested to grow as much of their own food as possible. The world is sad enough these days, and gardening certainly seems to bring more than a little much needed joy to the world. Dennis SE Michigan...See MoreRipping out garden beds for lawn
Comments (6)Quite a garden spot. Lots of work to do. You have two choices for easy lawn. If you want to do more work you might be able to use a third. The primary warm season grasses that will work for you are bermuda and St Augustine. Bermuda is much more work to keep nice. If you keep it very low (1 inch or less) then you will be mowing 2x per week. Bermuda must have as much water as any other grass to stay nice and green. It must also have monthly apps of high nitrogen fertilizer to stay green. If you are considering bermuda, please read the Bermuda Bible (search the Internet). Read that first to get an idea of how much work it is. By the way it will thin out all the way to bare dirt in shade. Bermuda is a very fine bladed turf and very dark green (at least the Tif 419 variety is). St Augustine is the other warm season grass that will work nicely. It can be mowed at the mower's highest setting and will work best at that height. There is never any reason to mow it lower. It can get by on 3 doses of chemical fertilizer per year but would love to get organic fertilizer in between. Some people with children don't want any chemicals at all. We can help you if that is your situation. St Aug requires as much water as any other grass; however, if you let it go dry and then brown, it will die. Other grasses go dormant. Not St Aug. St Augustine is a coarse bladed grass. When well fertilized it is dark green. St Aug is very shade tolerant. I have some that hasn't seen direct sunlight in years. And do not rototill the soil. Level it at the surface. Scrape off the hills and move that soil to the holes. The less disturbance you make to the soil the better off you will be. If you dig a plant out, replace all the soil and leave a slight mound there. It will eventually settle leaving the ground level. If you level it now, it will eventually settle leaving a hole. Since you are doing a full renovation, be sure your drainage is right before putting in the turf. It should drain away from buildings and fences. That means you need a ditch (for lack of a prettier word) out to the front of the house. As long as it drains, the grass will grow in there fine. You don't want standing water anywhere. The only grass that grows in standing water is swamp grass (like nutgrass). The other alternative turf might be Kentucky bluegrass. If your summer temps get into the 90s for more than a day or two, then count this one out. I've seen it doing very well in Huntington Beach (but not Huntington Library). With that thought in mind, you are close enough to wander around Huntington Library and Descanso Gardens. Look closely at their lawns. If you see St Augustine mowed low (a common mistake in public venues), you should notice it looks dry and possibly weedy. Those are consequences of mowing St Aug low. If you see hybrid bermuda, take your shoes off and walk in it. Mmmmmmm!...See MoreConflicted about ripping out perennial beds
Comments (18)I'm sitting here smiling. I routinely rip out large beds, do a few every year. Thugs or not, I need a visual change and doing the work is good for body and soul. Earlier this year I hired my niece and nephew, home from college and not yet at their summer jobs, to help me whack back an overgrown shrub border and take plants to the compost heap as I shovel pruned them. Usually I do it all myself but it was nice to have the help and these two young collegiates worked hard to earn some pocket money. One of the best aspects of being a winter sower is the lack of any significant expense to create new swaths of plants--you can rip out and redo to your hearts content and not feel it bite your wallet. I've got a back border very overgrown with massive clumps or Siberian iris, hibiscus, herbs and assorted shrubs I've all WSed. Some will be 'rescued' and go to a holding bed and then donated for charity sale next spring, but the rest of the plants will feed the compost heap. Once upon a time I felt guilty about doing such a thing, but I don't anymore. Rip out and make new. It keeps me busy and my garden is not static, it's a perpetual work in progress. Earlier this afternoon, I was looking at the new growth filling in on the shrubs which were cut to ankle-height a few months back and I am very satisfied with how it looks now. There's lots of room still for new perennials and I've got a few pots of eupatorium to go in to the emptiest areas, but I'm not in a rush. Lots more still to rip out and lots of seeds to sow in August, and then I'll put in the seedlings by late September and they'll snuggle into their spots through October and November and then comes blessed December when the garden gets put to sleep for the winter and the Winter Sowing season begins again. It's a constant ebb and flow of plants in and plants out in my garden, the life cycle is in full force, as it should be. T...See Morerip my lawn... hello virginia buttonweed
Comments (7)Miss Charlesanne..... If you are one of the anti-chemical/anti-grass catcher/anti-lawn people....as Tony Soprano would say...FUGATABOUTIT.................your lawn is toast. If you would like to keep your lawn, and make it beautiful, email me at apriljbox@hotmail.com. I would help you on here, but.....I can't take the heat from the anti-lawn/anti-chemical people on this forum anymore. But I would love to help you...my lawn is gorgeous...and I am a lawn person....See More- 6 years ago
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