Badly peeling and chipping white painted custom maple cabinets
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Comments (40)Is your original color espresso? It is hard to get the espresso shade with using a wood other than cherry or a few others. With maple and like woods they do not always take a dark stain well. I think it likely someone tried to fix a blotchy stain with a dark glaze except they used too much. Doing a glaze over a dark stain on maple and like woods is fairly common in order to get the dark stain to look uniform. The cabinets you put in look like espresso with a heavy handed sable glaze. If it were me and really wanted the original I would try to make a deal for cherry in the color of stain you want. Cherry does darken over time though....See MoreNeed help....new paint chipping/peeling already.
Comments (6)Our cabinets were made by a local cabinet maker that works for our builder. The cabinets were delivered "raw" to our house and then finished on-site. I do not know what kind of original finish was applied to the natural maple but it was dispensed out of cans(think aerosol). From the moment we had the final walkthrough on the house, we questioned the finish on the wood. Some areas appeared to have no finish on them but we were told everything had been sprayed with several coats. Within 6 week of living in the house, the maple cabs and trim were starting to spot...white spots. The painter(different from the cabinet maker) returned to our home and did some sanding and more spraying. That looked OK for another few months but the problem returned again AND again. Eventually all of the window ledges were "white"...no finish left and very raw and damaged looking. We continued to complain to the builder who then turned the problem over to Sherwin Williams...the product supplier. Sherwin Williams sent a few cabinet doors to a lab and determined the problem was "product failure". A new contractor was sent in, did more sanding, and brushed all of the cabinets and trim with a lacquer product which made me assume the original products were not lacquer. Once again, it looked better but not great for awhile and then the finish began to disintegrate once again. At this point, we were so sick of this crap. The builder sent in ANOTHER contractor who supposedly specializes in restoration and we tossed out the idea of getting rid of the maple look and enameling everything. The builder went for it...not sure why...possibly because they truly had no idea what was wrong with our wood. And this new contractor told us it had been a terrible move for the cabinets to be brushed with lacquer. We then left our house for 2 weeks with no expense reimbursement(road trip for 2 weeks with 4 kids in a camper...that was fun) from the builder for the financial inconvenience but were hopeful we would return to something that looked nice and was durable. When we walked in the door after vacation, the work really did look nice until we started noticing things upon closer inspection. We have now had a few areas that have peeled down to the maple, the cabinet doors were not adjusted correctly so the interior hinges have put chips in the new enamel, the inside of our childrens' closet doors(bi-fold) doors were barely sprayed and the wood is showing through, the bottom edge of the bottom panels of every six panel interior door was missed with the sprayer, the baseboard is full of debris, AND THE LIST GOES ON. Oh yeah, we were told to pick out the kind of paint we wanted the house walls to be repainted with(necessary due to spraying)...no strings attached. We directed the painter to use Hirshfields Platinum Ceramic Eggshell(with microban technology). He screwed that up somehow and used this Top Scrub junk. At this point, we are on good terms with the painter and he is telling us he will return to fix anything we want fixed but I'm like...DUDE, we left you the entire stinking house for 2 weeks. Couldn't you get it right the first time? That is the story....See MoreJust painted kitchen cabinets, now the paint is easily peeling.
Comments (52)When one mistake is made, it’s best to not compound it by continuing to make more mistakes. In this case, unfortunately, you did the “cheap” option- DIY painting, without doing adequate prep since you skipped the deglossing/sanding and priming (cabinets need deglossed, sanded, and a high bonding primer applied 72 hours before painting. Then you need to be gentle with cabinets for a month while they fully cure). Painting over paint that is already peeling from the surface, is not an option- that will only create more weight on already non-bonded paint and cause it to peel even faster. You need to hire a professional, IMO, you are spending valuable money on materials, and also your time time (and time is money) only to do the job wrong. Even if you knew what to do, you wouldn’t have the physical practice to do it professionally. However if that isn’t an option, then if you’re going to DIY, at least use a chemical stripper to strip the cabinets down (wear hand and eye protection), then clean, let them dry, then sand cabinets, wipe off dust, apply a high bonding primer, wait 72 hours, then paint 2 full coats. Continuing to do the cheap route, will only continue to make your problem worse and cost you even more money later. It’s like saying “I didn’t replace a hose on my engine so now my car is shaking. But I don’t want to replace the hoses right. Can I just change my oil?” The answer, of course, is no, you need to do things the right way or it’ll cause more expensive problems later. I am big on investing myself, renting and flipping homes, etc, but taking shortcuts on prep is not a way to save money- it’s a way to quickly lose a lot more money. There’s no getting around doing them right. If cash isn’t available, perhaps find a contractor who can take payment after house is sold- or use credit card to hire contractor- etc....See MoreNew Custom Cabinets Peeling-Help!(retitled from previous post)
Comments (43)If the carpenter cares about his reputation, then, voila, you've got leverage. There are a number of outlets to let people know about the quality of his work, Angies List being one of them. However, that is the card you must not play until you are sure that he will do nothing to correct the situation or cannot correct it. Your daughter wouldn't have to say a word - the photos will speak volumes! I do think that you need to give him an opportunity to correct the problems. Let him know what you think the problems are - I would start by photographing all the problems with the cabinets and send sending photos to him with a detailed explanation of all the issues and what corrections you expect. (that's why I think calling a "forensic" carpenter would be useful in helping you detail issues that might not be easily seen.) If he really cares about his reputation, he most certainly wouldn't want photos of this shoddy work to get out....See Moreeam44
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