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Wall color - natural tan or accessible beige?

CD
4 years ago

I could use some help picking a wall color for our kitchen remodel. We don’t get a lot of natural light, so I want to brighten up the space but keep the wall color a neutral color that isn’t too warm or too cool.


- cabinets: white

- countertop: Cambria Ironsbridge

- floors: red oak with medium grey stain (it will have some warmth because of the natural red tones that will end up showing through)

- trim/doors: warm white (existing color, we don’t plan to change this anytime soon)


Does anyone have Natural Tan? Does it show up too warm? Will Accessible Beige be too dark without much natural light? I’m also considering Oyster White to go even lighter but I don’t want to a white-on-White kitchen. I want just a slight contrast in the wall color from the trim.


Comments (25)

  • cd7733
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    My only concern with Natural Tan is that it has a LRV (Light Reflectance Value) of 65 and with low natural light might not be as light as you want. Your best bet is to go to Walmart (or hobby store), buy some 11"x14" canvas, and paint with the colors you've chosen. (Poster board is too flimsy) Then put it in your space and see how they react.

    I say this because I currently have Kilim Beige with a LRV of 57 with big South exposure windows and with my 3000k lights, it's not as bright as I'd like.

    In our new build, I've chosen SW 7555 Patience with a LRV of 67. But my new build has great natural light from NE and SW exposures.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Thank you @cd7733 that is a lot of helpful information! Thanks for the advice. I didn’t know about the LRV rating. We do plan to change out our can lights (soft white/2700) with LED downlights 3000k to brighten it up too.

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  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Yes, the trim really is making it harder to coordinate colors with. I don’t want to have to repaint the crown moldings, doors and baseboards throughout the house - it would be a significant amount of work and money. But maybe we will do that one day, which is why I don’t want to match the cabinets to the trim. Under whiter/natural light, the trim looks less warm. I’m hoping that brighter lights will help with that.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    So I ended up just going for the Sherwin Williams Natural Tan and purchased a gallon to try. My walls look blue :( and it makes my trim look more yellow. We are going to be changing our 2700k lights with 3000k so hopefully that makes the trim look less yellow in this room.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    I do plan to paint the family room cabinets white soon, and the carpet will be replaced with warm grey hardwoods.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    This is the BEFORE photo of our wall color in SW Latte. I wanted to brighten up the space and make it look less warm.

  • suezbell
    4 years ago

    Yay hardwoods.


    Of those shown, much prefer the Oyster White or Accessible Beige.


    The Natural Tan doesn't even look like tan -- it looks like dirty gray.

  • mnmamax3
    4 years ago

    Do you plan to keep the brown carpeting? The colors all affect each other and throw off the tone. And what color are your kitchen floors? I would highly recommend an in-home color consult. SW does one that is under $100 with $50 or $60 in paint gift cards IIRC.


  • suezbell
    4 years ago

    Like the Latte brown wall. Consider add some bold color -- dark red and/or green -- to the room via throw pillows and art and other decorations ... even curtains/drapes.

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    BeverlyFLADeziner
    4 years ago

    Just order your peel and press paint samples from Samplize.com

  • bridget helm
    4 years ago

    I like accessible Beige, but cut it by a lot. I think it’s a little too dark. Unless you want dark

  • flopsycat1
    4 years ago

    We used Accessible Beige for our main living space. It does not look dark, but we have a lot of natural light. Are you committed to a grey stain for the floor? I think it looks somewhat unnatural and may not marry well with the beiges of your sample board. Do you have a stained sample that you can place next to your other choices?

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    Flo Mangan
    4 years ago

    Need flooring samples. You need color that has higher LRV than those selected. Do you know what color the trim is painted? I can help you get a proper hue but need more info.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    My friend just refinished her red oak with Duraseal Warm Grey. I couldn’t get a full picture of her floors but from a distance you can see some red coming through. I plan to have the same stain on our red oak. I don’t want too much grey, because I agree it doesn’t go with the natural warmth throughout the house. But I primarily want to cancel the orange/red from red oak.

    I am considering hiring an interior designer to help me paint, but don’t want to pay $1k just to help me pick wall and custom cabinet colors. I didn’t know Sherwin Williams provided a color service! I’ll have to check that out.

    Accessible Beige doesn’t seem that much darker than Natural Tan. I think Natural Tan looks almost TOO light for what I wanted. “Dirty Grey” is the best description!!!

    Thank you everyone!

    Unfortunately we don’t have the original trim color. I think the previous homeowner made it custom because it doesn’t have a name on the bucket.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    This is the SW custom paint color, not sure if that helps without an actual name to reference.

  • bridget helm
    4 years ago

    I didn‘t read your entire post at first. The kids were fighting and i overlooked oyster white. I like oyster white the most with counters, but i worry your trim color is too yellow with it. but maybe it’s just the pic? Can you make your trim color the same as cabinets?


    my walls are Benjamin Moore Seapearl and my trim is Sherwin william snowbound. There is a contrast but it’s not a very noticeable contrast. I think oyster abd your cabinets would give off similar contrast.


    If you want more contrast then I’d do accessible beige and cut it some.


    Excuse the mess. I stocked up at Costco today for corona lockdown and have 5 kids at home who are doing nothing but eating what’s supposed to be “rationed” and they’re fighting constantly too😒

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  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    When you say “cut” the color, what exactly does that mean? I want to have some contrast against the trim, but if I go too dark (like the existing “Latte” color), then it makes the house feel dim.

    The trim looks more yellow under our 2700k lights (which I’m changing this weekend to 3k lights), and the picture makes it look extra yellow. But under better lighting, the trim looks like a regular white.

    I don’t want to go through the cost of repainting the trim (doors, crown moldings and baseboards) this year. Maybe in a few years I’ll invest in changing it.

    I want to have cabinets that are a soft warm white, not too cool and not too yellow, but enough to brighten the kitchen that gets very little natural light. I’m able to pick my own Sherwin Williams/Benjamin Moore color for the cabinets.

    The trim in the kitchen won’t match the cabinets, but I’m ok with that. There’s not a lot of trim in the kitchen so I don’t think it’ll be that noticeable (hopefullly).

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    Flo Mangan
    4 years ago

    That was a custom match so no real ability to know for sure but if you took to a SW Store, they could make a quart of it for you. You could then paint a primed sample board and see if it matches and possibly be able to darken for wall color to tin it. But this is a crap shoot because your trim work has been subject to light over years and cleaning products. What “cutting” usually loosely refers to is the practice of adding either white or a darker tint to lighten or darken paint color. It is very tricky because you may or may not change the Chroma of a color. All that said, as I said earlier, get some good samples of colors you think would work from Samplize.com and you will have a much better luck in finding one you like.

  • bridget helm
    4 years ago

    Totally understand the dilemma of trim that “came With the house”

    repainting trim is expensive


    If the color on the walls in the pic above the latte pic is natural tan, i don’t mind it. But I do see some green undertones in the natural tan swatch which is why it might be making your trim look yellowish. On the wall in that pic though i see what you mean by bluish dirty gray. I don’t dislike the color, but i see how it’s not what you were going for.


    By cut it, i mean make it 60%. Tell the Sherwin will people and they‘ll know exactly what you mean. Decreasing the darkness/depth will increase the light reflective value. Accessible beige at full “strength“ will be dark like the latte. You want half strength or 60% accessible beige. Show them the depth of natural tan and tell them you want accessible beige at that depth. they will know better than me what percentage will get you the same depth. They do it for me all of the time. They can make a little 4 dollar can for you to try.


    Also, off the top of my head, i think sherwin Williams worldly Gray might look nice. Try grab the Sample card of that while you’re in there. It’s a really really pretty color and the right depth.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Thank you!! Makes sense if Natural Tan has some green/blue is why it's making my trim look yellow. I'm going to pick up a small container of Accessible Beige to see how that turns out. I'll also check out Wordly Gray.


    I also decided that I'm going to pick my own white cabinet color from Sherwin Williams. Anyone have a recommendation for a bright, warm white? I'm considering Sherwin Williams Alabaster, but not sure if that will look bright enough. I can't go with Pure White because it has too much blue in it, and Creamy is too warm. Staring at my 50 samples of white makes me cross eyed.

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    Flo Mangan
    4 years ago

    SW Alabaster would work well. It could be lighter than your trim. I can look up color DNA of ones you are considering to save you 50 options and samples. Best to get chips, look at them in your light and against you trim, then purchase larger samples of 3-4 from Samplize.com to get bigger look at colors. Some use the “cut it” technique but from a pure Colorist point of view, this is not best method. You don’t know what the Chroma level or LRV will be so it is much better to pick known colors. Also, better if you need more paint or touch up later. More likely to get good match.

  • suezbell
    4 years ago

    If you "cut the color", you're not getting the color you chose but a much more pale version of it. Would NOT do that. If you want a lighter color, choose a lighter color to begin with.

    Bridget Helm You might consider swinging b y Dollar Tree and investing in a bag of jig saw puzzles for the kiddos.

  • CD
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Thanks everyone for your help! I decided to switch to Accessible Beige and it’s perfect. It’s the warm grey I was looking for. It doesn’t make my off white trim look as yellow like the Natural Tan did. It’s also very bright still! Not dark at all. We changed our lights from 2700k to 3000k for a brighter and less warm color, and it reflects beautifully off the paint color.

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    Flo Mangan
    4 years ago

    Lighting is a game changer! Glad you found the perfect color. I have used Accessible Beige for many clients and everyone loves it. Enjoy!