Asking Cabinet Builders: Repairable Waterborne Finish & Drawer Depths
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Should I keep complaining about this cabinet finish? (photos)
Comments (22)Acoreana- I think you got that exactly right. The black looks like it was done by an entirely different person and/or process. And perhaps it was. THe island was delivered about three weeks ago and I immediately complained about the red doors and sent them back. (I really should have taken photos of the red ones BEFORE the first fix. There were streaks in all different directions. In some places there were streaks that ran out from a center, like a radiating sun. I told him it looked like they had been attacked by a bear with large claws, not four little kids!) I fully explained how un-natural the wearing looked and that the center sections wouldn't even BE worn in most situations. About a week later the black cabs were delivered, and I was much much happier with the way they were done. I noticed the same thing you did- that there is a darker color under the black paint. Then yesterday, they re-delivered the red doors and made the HUGE mistake of INSTALLING them before getting my approval (I was at work.). It just annoys me. Had they brought them out and left them for my approval I would have not been as upset. BUt installing them just makes me mad. Thanks for letting me vent that. EllJays- I wish I would have seen the David T Smith gallery six months ago! I was holding my breath, just hoping they weren't based in CT or I would have been REALLY mad. THough it does look like they work all over the country....See MoreWhich base cabinet drawers do you find most useful?
Comments (19)I just finished my kitchen. I'm waiting for the painters to finish before I post my reveal. I went all drawers, thanks to the good folks at GW. I have a lot of little gadgets, knives, baking tools, etc. I thought I needed a 4-drawer stack. My KD steered me away from them. Rather, I have all 3-drawer stacks. One of the stacks has two shallow drawers and one very deep drawer. I purchased a series of bain marie and built an insert for the drawer to contain a lot of my cooking utensils, I also installed a bunch of Rev-a-Shelf inserts. I can't believe how much I loaded into this one drawer stack. You can see from the picture that the bottom drawer is very deep. So, you can vary the size of the drawers. I also made sure to put in a Super Susan. It holds huge amounts of casserole and mixing bowls. My formerly cramped kitchen has empty drawers and cabinets because the base drawers are so efficient in handling equipment storage. Other than trash pull out, sink base, a spice pull out and the Super Susan, everything else is a drawer cabinet. You were asking about spice storage. I'm short. I have trouble seeing things in the back of upper cabinets. It has been my experience that the spice pull out base cabinet is useless, too. I can't see the names of the bottles in a base pull out without squatting down. That takes too much time. Here is my solution. I purchased drop down bins made by Rubbermaid, $11 each, from Target online. You might consider this solution. Yes, they are displayed in alphabetical order. I'm a little bit of a perfectionist....See MoreDo you think its mean to make the builder switch out for new cabinets?
Comments (34)When I address comments like this, I do so from a legal/dispute resolution standpoint. Again, ask your builder for the moon if you really want to. However, I believe there are several factors that will likely impede your forcing him to do anything. (1) There are a lot of holes and screws inside cabinets, you are going to have to demonstrate that these are damaging while others are not. Which is going to be a struggle. Please note, this would be completely different if the holes were on the front as they will be when your new handles are installed. (2) Filled holes and touch up paint are industry standards and you are only entitled to acceptable industry standard cabinets. You are going to have a tough time overcoming that. (3) What does your contract say about him breaching? If he has a standard breach clause in the contract, likely the only thing you can demand is the return of your deposit and termination of the contract. ---- I do understand your frustration and I sympathize. However, I will caution against charging head-first into this because of internet opinions from strangers without any skin in the game....See MoreCabinet finish choices not what I expected - suggestions?
Comments (64)Cool conversation, if I may. I have never used plywood or mdf for kitchen faces. Wood is wood. The little wood blocks of wood shown is European vs American oak. The red tint on is red oak from the northern states, WI area. Golden, European, is from Georgia area S E states. Difference caused by the minerals in the soil. Actually I didn't really care about the cost of the raw lumber as it was my lowest expense. Quarter sawn white oak is more expensive. But available. Custom means Custom, what you want. All solid wood except the carcus, usually used birch but oak is fine. Dove tailed drawers sanded everywhere. You won't find a sliver in my work, bottom of back door gets same treatment as face, always no matter how much I off bid. I ate it, owned it. Fixed it. Right is right. Or it drove me crazy. You could put a thousand pounds in the uppers. And they came as big, one piece, as I could get in the door. Less corners better space usage. Faces could be removed if necessary for repair. One hundred pound full extension doors self closing. Durable polyurethane faces, laquer in carcus 3 coats minimum. Standard. Custom turned posts to customers design, incorporated desk into the kitchen helps keep things organized and allows a bit of office space if needed. Many folks have to be parents and breadwinner. Teacher. Any little thing that helps make your, you're life easier. I'm a pro and will build your dreams. Pull out cutting boards, washable hard maple. Wherever you want one any size. Biggest I've done was 6'×7'×2-1/2" thick with a drop sink. Had little cut outs on the sink side. Customer had 2 little girls so I made 2 kitchen stools that slid up into the space. Then they could help mom easier. I burned in the names of each child into the stools. Nice touch. Custom turned legs matched the office space spindles and oversized 4"×6' spindles on each side of the brick behind the stove. As borders. And the legs on the dining room table. Big table too. 8' with 3ea 2' wide leafs. Took 3 sets of slides. Just an example of where my comments are coming from. That was a great job. 3 staircases with treads foot wide 4' long 4" thick. Bunch of vanities with birch tops n bed sets. Dumbwaiter doors with birch front. Fun job. Folks got exactly what they wanted and dreamed about as a young couple building their dream home with an heirloom quality kitchen. Built by a craftsman...See MoreAglitter
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