Hot handles on French door wall ovens - Viking or Blue Star.

4 years ago

Given my passageway near my oven, the french doors appeal since they will not swing out as far. However, the contractor's appliance guy is telling me the french door models (I want either Viking or Blue Star) get too hot and you have to use oven mitts to open the doors. Anyone have problems like this?

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rdy2retire

3 years ago

Design Girl - The Viking oven is great. No issues at all. Cleans up easily - still looks new and we use it daily! I love the French door design and would never go back to a pull down door as my main oven again. I also have a Wolf cooktop and a Wold Steam oven that are fantastic as well.

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Patricia Colwell Consulting
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago
I only have experience with commercial french door ovens and the handles are always hot so always a good idea to wear gloves. I am wailing for the Neff ovens to be available the door slides underneath.
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rdy2retire
4 years ago
I have the Viking French door oven and the handles DO NOT get hot. It was installed in 2017. Love being able to open it with 1 hand.
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If you do a search you'll find people on here who say the BS door is so hot if you touch it you'll burn yourself, and others who say the opposite. Barry makes a good point about the other things in a kitchen that can cause a burn. I've posted this before, but I'll do it again. I've had a BS RCS for over 2 months now. The sides of the door where the vents are get very hot. Touching those for a few seconds could potentially cause a burn, if you held your hand or other body part against it for at least a few seconds, and probably it would take longer than that. Not a likely scenario. A brief touch will not burn someone. And not much of the sides are exposed though, so unlikely to be an issue. But the door itself, nope. My door doesn't get that hot. Mine gets warm. The glass part gets warmer than the door but I've held my hand against it for several seconds before it's uncomfortable. I had a Viking range before this one and the door, the oven sides and the struts that attached the oven handle to the door got really really hot, painfully so if you touched them more than briefly. I raised two kids with that range, and no burns whatsoever. Kids learn quickly not to touch things. I wouldn't worry about the BS door at all. Get the range you like.
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@rdy2retire - How the the oven performed for you. So many on this forum do not like Viking products. I'm almost ready to begin a remodel and I'm looking at the double wall ovens and the induction cooktop. Do you like the ovens, do you have any issues? thanks.
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Rdy2retire - Where did you mount the Wolf Steam oven, below the Viking French door?
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3 years ago
rdy2retire:

I love the French door look of Viking and getting ready to do a kitchen remodel. I want to “match” a rangetop with a Viking 6 burner but want a built in deep fryer and steamer, which only comes in Wolf. Are you happy mixing cooking brands? How long have you had your Viking oven now and are you still pleased with it? I’ve been seeing a YouTube review that Viking has been better since it was acquired by Middlyby in terms of product quality and service? Thanks for any advice!
rdy2retire
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Hi all - sorry did not see the earlier comments.

marc_miles35 - we put our steam oven below our counter top, where some might put a microwave or freezer drawers. It works great for us there.

cltran333 - no issue for me mixing brands in my kitchen. I have the Viking French door over, Wolf cooktop, Wolf steam oven, Subzero integrated fridge, a Subzero drink fridge and a Bosch dishwasher. They all look fine together. More importantly, they all work/function they way we intended and suit our needs.

Best of luck with your remodel project.
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Architectural Fine Finishes dba Property Partners
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Hello! What french door model do you have? We remodeled our client's kitchen and she choose Viking and she has issues with almost every Viking appliance, the french door oven being the most problematic with the handles getting VERY hot. Model VSOF7301. The repair team installed new doors but it has not solved the issue. The technician told us that hot handles are common with all brand french door oven. Thank you!
rdy2retire
4 months ago
Hi - we installed model VSOF730SS. My handles dont get hot. I use the oven on a daily basis and can open it with one hand, no gloves. When the kids were here we would make pizzas on a pizza stone with the temp at 500 and no issues with the handles. Hope that helps.
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Architectural Fine Finishes dba Property Partners
4 months ago
Thank you so much. I just ran a search on your model. Looks like yours is a discontinued 7 series and I think our clients is the one that replced it. I will have to ask our distributors Viking rep what they changed on the doors if anything. I am so glad your oven is in great condition. Happy cooking and Happy holidays!

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