Miele 30" Moisture Plus convection oven - steam functions for bread?
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Comments (5)The convection steam oven can be used just like a normal convection oven though it heats up much quicker. With our family of four we use it the most of all the oven's (have a 30" Wolf below it and a 36" BS range). Almost anything we do for a dinner can be done in the steam oven rather than heating up and dirtying one of the larger ovens. It roasts meat and chickens the best of any oven using convection humid mode. Bakes bread excellent except for high heat baking (only goes to 445), use it for cookies, dutch/german pancakes, makes an excellent crust on any food. Don't get caught up in the 'steamed food' mindset, it's all convection oven when you want it to be. We do use the steam mode for veggies (we'll never micro them again), sometimes fish, though I do prefer fish baked or fried. It makes excellent rice and I've even done pasta in it (though not as handy as I like checking pasta in a pan for perfect doneness). It's the only way we make rice now. I've made custards in it, works great, no water bath. Reheating food is great, again no more micro for that. There are a lot of modes that make food more convenient to prepare. My DW likes to make hard boiled eggs in it (obviously not boiled), she just leaves them in the paper carton and steams them, got to be careful taking them out if not on a cookie sheet as the paper gets pretty limp. I made brown sugar (turbinado) bacon in it last weekend and it turned out awesome, nice and crisp in about 25 minutes. Like I mentioned we use it a LOT. It's a bit pricey for a rice cooker, or a micro replacement but for all the other things it does I would lose my 30" Wolf over the steam oven anyday of the week. For me the only limitation is the heat range as max is 445 but I do make cast iron pan pizza in it and it turns out wonderful. For normal pizza I crank the BS to 'beyond' 500, some breads want a higher heat. It doesn't have a broiler so having at least one oven with one works great. I have the Wolf CSO so do fill the water reservoir manually but that's maybe twice a week at the most and takes all of a minute. We've had ours over 2 years and still haven't used it to it's full potential. Once you get it you'll understand how great it is, it will inspire you to cook differently and more conveniently with better results over a std oven or microwave. IMO there s/b one in every kitchen, it's more of a workhorse than any other appliance....See More30" Wolf Wall Oven E Series or 30" Wolf Convection Steam Oven
Comments (6)We bought the Miele Combi Steam in addition to a 30" wall oven, and it is our "Go To" Oven. Use it daily. It is very versatile and being a smaller oven heats quickly. All of our baking dishes fit in this oven. It operates the same as our 30" wall oven plus the combi steam function. It is awesome for reheating leftovers/baking bread/used as a regular oven/steaming veggies- rice etc. The Miele has a broiler unlike the Wolf - not sure of your configuration but you might want to compare the Miele with the Wolf. There are several threads on these two products. Regardless of which oven - you will be happy going with a combi steam oven. Agree with the other posters that recommend you attend a demo at a Wolf/Miele design center if possible....See MoreMiele Oven Configuration, 24Combi, 30Convection + Speed ? or Microwave
Comments (5)It really depends how YOU use the microwave not someone else. Some people do not want to use a microwave or even have one in the house for a variety of reasons and preferences. I think some of the biggest advocates of combi steam ovens are in this group and you'll know if you are too. Yes you can reheat a plate of food in the steam oven but it will take at least 15-20 minutes (including warm up time). If you need to be able to reheat a plate of food in 5 minutes you will want a microwave. I wish I lived a planned and orderly life where I could spend 30-60 minutes preparing and cooking every meal but that's not my life. There are times when I really do want a meal ready in under 5 minutes from fridge to stomach. Even in the future if I wasn't working there are times when I'd have other priorities than cooking. If you use the microwave to boil water you would use a burner on the range/cooktop (or you might be able to get by with a hot water dispenser). For oatmeal I use quick oats on my induction cooktop which works nicely as it tastes better than microwave and is ready in about 7 minutes. You can also do it in the steam oven but will take 20-45 mins depending upon what type of oats you are using. Induction cooktops are a great alternative to a microwave for boiling or melting. Alternative to microwave for popcorn is a hot air popper. We set a small microwave in a pantry cabinet for occasional use. We keep the pantry door open while using it and unplug it after every use. Works for us to reheat a plate of food a few times per week but if I was doing extensive microwave cooking I would not want to do that. Combi steam oven is great for soft or hard boiled eggs! Turns out perfect every time....See MoreMiele Combi Steam Oven, Convection Oven and Hard Water
Comments (7)The way I understand things, hard water is bad, because it leaves deposits. Contaminated water is bad, because the contaminants can clog things. Demineralized water (distilled or reverse-osmosis) is bad, because complete lack of minerals makes water more prone to corroding metals. And acidic or alkaline water is similarly bad. So, ideally, you supply soft clean tap water. Where that isn't available, an ion-exchange water softener can remove hardness without removing total amount of minerals. And a carbon or particle filter can remove contaminants, if applicable. These restrictions are true for all kitchen appliances regardless of brand. So, switching from Miele to Wolf just because the wording in their manual is different doesn't actually buy you more reliability. Switching from plumbed to supplying suitable (!) bottled water would help though. And you can do that with either brand. And installing appropriate point-of-use water treatment would work just as well....See Moreeric02138
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